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Re: .net and oracle's (10G) object relational features ?

From: Jim Kennedy <kennedy-downwithspammersfamily_at_attbi.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:32:46 -0800
Message-ID: <x7Odnd5srM6xh7TfRVn-sg@comcast.com>

"DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1109953991.126024_at_yasure...
> Niall Litchfield wrote:
>
> > DA Morgan wrote:
> >
> >>I do. But then I teach at a university just 2 miles from the main
> >>Microsoft campus. Word in the halls is that .NET is going down as the
> >>sales of new licenses is near 0 and the revenues, based solely on
> >>upgrade, insufficient to maintain Ballmer's lifestyle.
> >
> >
> > Well I'm not sure I normally count gossip as evidence.
>
> Gossip is not evidence. But when the people talking are Microsoft
> employees working on the project I give it a bit more weight.
>
> It should come as no surprise to anyone that at Oracle Corp. they
> are currently working on both versions 11 and 12 of the database.
> But no one is going to walk away from the product because we all
> know what they do will be very compatible with earlier versions
> and there will be a very easy upgrade/migration path.
>
> So why would anyone doubt that at Microsoft they are also working
> on the next version? That shouldn't be controversial. The question
> is more one of backward compatibility and that is the one place
> where Microsoft has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to make
> its licensees recode and incur a huge cost of upgrading.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> (replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)

I think one of the important things is your statement, borne out by repeated experience, that MS often abandons technology and forces a painful "upgrade" just so one can run their applications on MS Platforms. MS even does this with their own tools. Perfect example was VB 5 vs VB5 and the RTF control. (not the RTFM control <grin>) They were called the same thing but were utterly incompatible. MS's advice was to have dual boot systems when you needed to run one vs the other. Of course, the advice is stupid and shows an utter lack of understanding of using vendor supplied software. (where two vendors both use RTF controls and different versions of VB in this case)

Since this is a given I have to say that my observation is that it strengthens the case for including the business logic in the database NOT in the application. And of course an Oracle database should be your database of choice :-o.

Jim Received on Fri Mar 04 2005 - 20:32:46 CST

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