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DA Morgan wrote:
> Niall Litchfield wrote:
>
>> DA Morgan wrote: >> >>> Maybe I'm showing my innocence here but if Mark gives away RAC >> >> >> licenses >> >>> for free it costs Oracle one piece of 8 1/2 x 11 paper. I think of >>> hardware as being different. >> >> >> >> One of the big ways in which RAC has been sold is that you can save big >> bucks by throwing out all that expensive hardware. Now if RAC is free >> or nearly so then that would be fair enough, but last time I looked the >> list price of RAC was $20k per processor. So instead of buying an 8 way >> Unix box (say the sun v880 at 86k list for 8 processors and 16gb RAM) >> you buy 2 4 way dell boxes with linux on them (I've used 2 4 way power >> edge 7250s with 8gb ram each) for 47k and save 40k on hardware. Great. >> You've also added 256k including the standard discount from >> store.oracle.com to the system price. So that is paying 200k more for a >> more complex and less widely adopted system. >> >> Incidentally even without RAC the software was the significant cost of >> the system anyway. >> Niall
> as the need for more resources increases ... add more nodes
> one at a time. Keeps the cost of hardware in line with need
> and revenues. And as you add new nodes with faster CPUs the
> load balancing improves performance.
>
> The SMP alternative is to either day one purchase two boxes
> big enough to handle the anticipated requirement 2+ years in the
> future or expect to have to forklift out the current box after
> one or so years (which will then worth only a fraction of its
> original cost as it will be obsolete) and replace it with two
> brand new bigger boxes.
>
> Try to sell a CFO on buying to very large computers, one of
> which will hopefully never be utilized ... just sit there
> idling in backup mode ... with all of the costs up front versus
> buying commodity hardware on an as-needed basis with the
> changes over time in hardware performance benefiting the
> overall ROI.
>
> I've yet to see meet the CFO, when shown the numbers, that
> didn't make that decision for the IT folks using a very large
> hammer.
-- Serge Rielau DB2 SQL Compiler Development IBM Toronto LabReceived on Wed Feb 02 2005 - 15:21:01 CST