Re: database market share 2003

From: Larry <Larry_at_nospam.net>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 03:24:27 GMT
Message-ID: <Ltcuc.52$DC1.59921@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Daniel,

This reminds me of the 80s when client/server and distributed computing first came in to vogue. The big headline was that the mainframe was a dinosaur and would soon be replaced by distributed systems. I'm still waiting. And I think the same thing holds for Linux. It is certainly appropriate for certain applications. But its got a ways to go before it matures. And even then, I somehow don't think that a Linux system built with the hw that you quote will ever be running you bank accounts, your credit cards, and making reservations for you on airlines. Most, if not all, of these type of applications require the RAS of the mainframe ... and I don't see a day real soon when they won't.

Larry Edelstein

Daniel Morgan wrote:

> Mark A wrote:
>

>> "robert" <gnuoytr_at_rcn.com> wrote in message
>> news:da3c2186.0405291715.5e4125bd_at_posting.google.com...
>>
>>> what i've not seen is the other side of this coin:  that (perhaps)
>>> IBM's share is skewed (looks larger than it really is) by the
>>> fact that it pretty much owns the mainframe.  a relative handful
>>> of very expensive installs. in other words, i question how relevant
>>> DB2 is to the future of relational databases.  IBM needs to
>>> demonstrate that it is relevant outside of conversions (i use
>>> the term very, very loosely) of behemouth COBOL/VSAM systems. at
>>> my work, they just defined tables from the copybooks.  i
>>> gather this is quite common.
>>>
>>> robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Since DB2 mainframe has been around since the mid-1980's, that is
>> ridiculous. The overwhelming majority or DB2 OS/390 applications were
>> designed on DB2 from scratch. Your company may be an exception, and 
>> somewhat
>> backward. After all, they employ you, so it must be a really screwed up
>> company.

>
>
> But for how much longer ... I wonder?
>
> I am watching the huge inroads being made by clustered Linux taking out
> Sun's and H/P's more expensive offerings. I built an 8 CPU cluster a few
> weeks back with less than $11,000 US in hardware.
>
> How long before it becomes easy to build OS/390 equivalent machines
> with a rack of 2 CPU x 4GB Intel boxes running RedHat AS?
>
> I suspect far sooner than you want to imagine.
>
> And when the big iron goes ... do you think DB2 will survive? Informix,
> in my opinion, has a better chance of surviving.
>
Received on Sat May 29 2004 - 22:24:27 CDT