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You don't quote an Oracle version - and oddities like this can be highly version dependent.
Was there any difference between the table parameters you used for the first copy and the second copy ? Was the pctfree zero, was it unrecoverable ?
It is possible that the CTAS did something that overestimated the number of rows that could get into a block, and then had to correct on the fly. (direct path load had a similar problem a long time ago).
One minor detail - in your SQL to check row lengths nvl(vsize(col),1) would probably be a better approximation, as most columns will have an extra one byte for the length. (trailing nulls being one exception, and columns longer than about 250 bytes which use a 3-byte length).
-- Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html April 2004 Iceland http://www.index.is/oracleday.php June 2004 UK - Optimising Oracle Seminar July 2004 USA West Coast, Optimising Oracle Seminar August 2004 Charlotte NC, Optimising Oracle Seminar September 2004 USA East Coast, Optimising Oracle Seminar September2004 UK - Optimising Oracle Seminar "MAK" <maks70_at_comcast.net> wrote in message news:b7178504.0404261631.76c73a1d_at_posting.google.com...Received on Tue Apr 27 2004 - 11:48:43 CDT
> I am trying to reduce nos of migrated/chained rows from our database.
> I did following things to get them identified and corrected. The
> database is using 8K block size.
>
> 1) analyze table s_contact list chained rows into chained_rows;
> 2) select count(*) from chained_rows where table_name = 'S_CONTACT'
> count(*)
> ----------
> 488080
> 3) I got all the migrated/chained rows in following temp table.
>
> create table temp_s_contact_03
> pctfree 0 pctused 5
> inittrans 5
> unrecoverable
> as
> (
> select * from s_contact
> where rowid in ( select head_rowid from chained_rows where table_name
> = 'S_CONTACT'));
>
> Table created.
>
> Wanted to check , if this has reduced any migrated/chained rows. So
> ran following things.
>
> 4) analyze table temp_s_contact_03 list chained rows into
> chained_rows.
>
> 5) select count(*) from chained_rows where table_name =
> 'TEMP_S_CONTACT_03';
> count(*)
> ----------
> 6056
>
> Why I still got 6056 chained/migrated rows? I thought I might have
> some chained rows (rows bigger than the block size which is 8K). So I
> ran following command to get average row lengh.
>
> 6) analyze table temp_s_contact_03 compute statistics ;
> 7) select avg_row_len, chain_cnt from dba_tables where table_name =
> 'TEMP_S_CONTACT_03';
>
> AVG_ROW_LEN CHAIN_CNT
> ----------- ----------
> 565 6056
>
> Its shows average row length is < 8K so most likely all 6056 should
> be migrated rows[ Why they became migrated rows with no update
> activity??? ]. I ran following query to get the max , min, avg row
> length to confirm.
>
>
> 8) select max(ln),min(ln), avg(ln)
> from
> ( select nvl(vsize(col1),0)+nvl(vsize(col1),0)+...nvl(vsize(col_n),0)
> ln from temp_s_contact_03 );
>
>
> MAX(LN) MIN(LN) AVG(LN)
> ---------- ---------- ----------
> 715 154 258.20
>
> So maximum row length is 715bytes. So if this true then all the
> rows(6056) are migrated and not the chained rows. Why do I have
> migrated rows with no update activity? Can some one explain?
>
> I also noticed an interesting thing, If I create another table from
> temp_s_contact_03 and analyze that table, I got 0 chained rows . Any
> clue?
>
> Thanks in advance....