Re: SPAM DB has been released

Galen Boyer wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, damorgan_at_x.washington.edu wrote:
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>>All SPAM is bad spam. I don't care if you are giving it away
>>for free. I don't care if you personally show up, install it,
>>configure it train on it, and then give me a check for $50: It
>>is still spam.

I will gladly answer that one. Jonathan posts in response to posts by other people asking for help solving a problem or requesting clarification.

Not once has he just posted marketing in and of itself. Not once has he referred anyone to his company as the solution to a problem. Not once has he said "come take my class for the answer."

Jonathan may use a line or two more than I and others do to indicate what he does and who he is but he isn't posting purely, or I suspect even incidentally, in the hope of make a sale or driving someone to his web site so he can sell them something.

A free product or give-away to get people to come to your for-profit site is marketing at is most basic level. "Come on down to our used car dealership and we will give you a toaster" is marketing. So is "Come to our web site and download SPAM-DB 1.6 for free." In both cases the motive is transparent.

The DB2 and Informix groups have their rules and they should be respected. The Oracle group's rules should be too. And if spammers aren't made to pay a price for what they do it just encourages them to spam more and for others to do so too. You really don't want me, and every other consultant, posting our advertising here. Really!

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