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Daniel Morgan wrote:
>
> Can't help you with that. But if you intend the OCP to be anything
> more than just a waste of perfectly good money ... why don't you
> just fire up Oracle on your PC and find the correct answers for
> yourself?
>
Sad to see you repeating this drivel again, Daniel.
I agree with your premise that OCP is not justifiably an end-result. And I agree that certifications, for the sake of certifications, are a waste of employers effort and money. And I agree that some people have the knack for getting certification without being truly qualified for that.
All of that dilutes, but does not totally negate, the value of certification.
I also know that a number of people who have significant experience in our field would never have looked at RMAN, Stand By, OEM and a few of the other capabilities, had they not decided to get (or upgrade) their OCP. These people fall into the 15 years, not 15 x 1 year, category but are run ragged by their employers and don't have the energy to upgrade themselves without corporate blessing and support.
And certification is a useful tool to help someone retrain from one tool set to another. Think about a person originally trained in SQL Server or DB2 - dump them into Oracle without training or with (at least) OCP?
Your advice (of firing up a PC and checking out the answers) is bang on. But what questions are people supposed to ask? At least OCP gives some direction there. Not nearly enough depth as far as I'm concerned, but at least the direction is there.
If part of a larger picture, the OCP can be a good tool, in spite of SOME mistakes - which eventually get corrected if reported. (The way some of us go on about the mistakes, an outsider could be led to believe that ALL the answers are wrong.)
And for some smaller organzations, getting certification might be the only way a DBA can wrangle training past the dunder-headed management and HR. Seen it once too often.
As for the alternatives - I wouldn't hire graduates from the majority of tech schools I see around here to go anywhere within 10520 feet of any database. And your university only accepts 60 people a year. That's not enough to satisfy the demand.
/Hans Received on Wed Feb 25 2004 - 20:07:06 CST