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Re: yipeee!

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 11:02:50 -0800
Message-ID: <1076266919.486809@yasure>


Joe Weinstein wrote:

> 
> 
> Daniel Morgan wrote:
> 

>> Joe Weinstein wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. Also, I really don't want to sound like I'm picking only on Oracle,
>>> because I complain about other DBMSes too. Oracle's TAF fooled a number
>>> of customers into believing it really was Transparent Application
>>> Failover,
>>> but it seems to be so only for certain mostly-idle clients. The reason I
>>> say this is because while there is no data loss during a failover, nor
>>> even any transactional context (locks), what is lost is any
>>> *computational*
>>> context that the client may be relying on if it was actually doing
>>> something when the failover occurred. For instance, most cursor context
>>> is lost. Java clients that may have created and are re-using Prepared
>>> Statements will find that all those prepared statements are now defunct,
>>> and must be recreated before the client can even retry what they were
>>> doing.
>>> This generally means returning to the line of code right after
>>> obtaining the
>>> original connection. Having the connection automatically failover to an
>>> appropriate backup DBMS is certainly valuable, but calling it "TAF" was
>>> 'aiming high' in the marketing department, IMHO.
>>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> From the client's standpoint it is completely transparent which is
>> the origin of the name.
>>
>> Perhaps you need to come take the class I teach on RAC.
> 
> 
> Thanks! I could use your help! I'm operating (in this topic context) as 
> middleware
> which pools JDBC connections, each of which cache prepared statements. 
> Customer code
> uses these connections, and involves them in multi-statement, 
> multi-resource transactions.
> If there is a "TAF", is there a way *I* can shield the client code from 
> the effects
> on the prepared statements they may be in the process of using?
> Appreciatively,
> Joe Weinstein at BEA

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