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Re: Daniel morgan and other DBA's ur advice on oracle carrier path

From: KevJohnP <nospam_at_nowhere.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:53:57 +1300
Message-ID: <vzgPb.18499$9k7.327815@news.xtra.co.nz>


The DBA role always had hooks into either Dev and/or server support (ie sys admin and app support). Commercial pressures and a belief (partly based on reality) that databases will become more self-managing mean that DBAs are now expected to do more in other areas. Large organisations will continue to be an exception (ie those that have a DBA group or DBA team).

Having moved jobs (and countries) recently and knowing a number of DBA colleagues who have moved recently, then it is apparent that many DBA jobs in the UK & Aus/NZ have asked for other skills including;

So if you have an opportunity to learn and use any of these then it pays to keep flexible as this is a growing trend.

Personally in the Tech Support arena I think it is a good thing as encouraging people to think in terms of supporting the business service is helpful - having the DBA team say it was the Unix teams issue, the Unix team say it was a Network issue and the Network team say it was a DBA issue then all of them blame the App or the Developers didn't get the problem fixed! Service support is the future role with people having specialisms IMHO.

hrishy wrote:

> Hi Daniel
>
> I have been following your replies on some of the threads here..I
> noticed that you have huge amount of experience gauged by your replies
> to the answers you have posted.I am curious to knwo what your thoughts
> are on couple of topics
>
> 1)DBA's becoming redundant
>
> 2)Most shops adopting multiple DB's (postgre sql oracle,mysql
> sqlserver db2 etc)
>
> 3)Merging of the sys admin and the DBA roles in organisations
>
> 4)Market exepectations wherein sometimes the jobs demanding Java asp
> skills from DBA's
>
> 5)DBA's with knowledge of managing packaged applications like Baan SAP
> Peopelsoft etc or DW market
>
> I am from india and so my experiences are limited to the indian
> market..The indian market is very very demanding and they squeeze a
> lot from DBA's here.(cheap outsourcing you see dont have anyone to
> balme..thats what the market wants..who doesnt want to have huge
> profits)
>
> My exp have been like this
>
> 1)sometimes the management has seen me sitting idle..so thy really
> think that they dont really need a DBA at all..and they can do away
> with DBA activites.maybe they think that everything can be done
> through OEM and GUI.
>
> 2)some interviews i attend they bluntly ask me that they need oracle
> DBA's with sybase or Db2 DBA knowledge too i am sometimes
> awestruck..so i was in two minds for a few days and then i started
> learning Db2 and sybase too atleast baby sit them.
>
> 3)many a times i have backed up as a sysdamin on digital unix sun and
> linux ssytems..just becoz management thought that they cannot afford a
> seperate sysadmin.
>
> 4)Again i see advt where the position is DBA but with java skills..at
> first i couldnt help stop laughin..many senior DBA"s i had talked to
> knwo perl not java..and again since i am money minded(who is not :-))i
> used to think is perl really worth a place in my resume..when the
> market demands java..
>
> 5)well these ares is i beleieve is still grey..after all sap does not
> give away its erp for free..so entry barriers are high and if i
> somehow can make a breakthrough..it would be great ..
>
> just wunderin what you guys thing esp when you are comming from
> different geo-graphical location..your thoughts would be higgly
> appreciated.
>
>
> regards
> Hrishy
Received on Tue Jan 20 2004 - 14:53:57 CST

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