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-- Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html Three-day seminar: see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ____UK___November The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html "Noons" <wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam> wrote in message news:3ff2e475$1$18694$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au...Received on Wed Dec 31 2003 - 09:37:24 CST
> "Jonathan Lewis" <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Basically it is pointing out that the code
> > path to
> > calculate hash
> > latch
> > pin
> > drop latch
> > ACCESS DATA - time unknown
> > latch
> > unpin
> > drop latch
> > is going to be fairly constant, and a significant
> > fraction of the total cost of an LI/O provided
> > you don't do anything horrible at the ACCESS
> > DATA bit.
> >
>
> Would this also stand for an index block access?
> I'm just reminded of Steve's argument in the "7 sins"
> about the root index block access not being scalable.
> That would be mostly because of the above?
>
Yes. Root blocks are less scalable because they are very popular. Get 10,000 queries hitting a table through an index for a random row, and you might get: 1 root block hit 10,000 times 100 branch blocks hits 100 times each 10,000 table blocks hit once each. If there is a non-scaling point (other than the table I/O, perhaps) it's going to happen at the root block. Oracle has worked to reduce the problem - in recent versions a lot of root block access seems to single latch access, which helps. There have also been changes in the way root blocks are pinned during nested loops and inside pl/sql calls to reduce the number of latch gets.
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> > Over the years, across different plaforms, and
> > different versions of Oracle, I've seen a variation
> > in my base test from about 5,000 to 17,000.
>
> Has it changed significantly between 8i and 9i?
>
I think there has been a steady increase in the code path, so in my test case, the rate has tended to decrease with version of Oracle. On the other hand, some SQL has gone faster because new strategies have been introduced to reduce the number of units of action required even though the cost of a single unit may have increased.
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> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam
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