Re: Where is Oracle’s Grid ?

"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1071650922.853887_at_yasure...

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> Are you working with pipelined table functions?
> Are you using associative arrays?
> Are you using FGAC?
> Are you using Workspace management?
> Are you working with V_$DB_CACHE_ADVICE?

A perfect example of what I said in my previous post. You seem to blame DBAs for not using the latest features.

HOW MANY 3rd PARTY PACKAGES do you know in the market that use ANY of those or can take advantage of them? Name ONE!

Stop blaming DBAs for not using features that the crap software they work with has no intention or need to use! It's NOT the fault of the DBAs, for crap's sake! You're shooting the messenger!

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> I understand you are frustrated and angry because people have something
> you want. But this is a bit of over-reaction.
>

No. He's frustrated and pissed of because ONCE AGAIN Oracle is leaving behind in their marketing frenzy the people that work and defend their product, day in day out. And have NO SAY whatsoever in the crap they have to work with!

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> We're trying. What do you expect from gigabytes of software? Absolute
> perfection?

DARN YES! If the feature is hyped to all skies like the 8 and 7 features were and then they only work properly three patch sets later, not withstanding the "extensive beta testing", they are perfectly entitled to ask for a better service!

> not what we are doing. We are testing. We are beating the heck out of it
> on HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, and Windows and checking out every little
> backwater obscure piece of syntax we can find.

Let's hope so. In two years time, when all the bugs are flushed out and the OBVIOUS faults are fixed, can I come back here and enumerate the ones you didn't trap?

No, of course not: that would be dishonest on you. Daniel, you are talking to people that HAVE tested beta software more times than they can poke a stick at, having been in this industry for decades.

We KNOW what you're going through. You can only test a very small portion. A restricted beta test program will ALWAYS only achieve that. That's why FSF software is so much more efficient and stable: it gets tested by two orders of magnitude more people than Oracle will ever be able to muster.

> Is there some fun working with grid? Absolutely. But the price of
> admission is a name server, enough other servers to cobble together a
> grid, and a little thing called a SAN. Got one?

Nope. Neither do 90% of user sites out there. Talk about mis-directed marketing and development efforts, eh?

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