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2nd CFV: comp.databases.etl

From: Cara <cara_altman_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 5 Dec 2003 07:16:02 -0800
Message-ID: <93879b56.0312050716.5ab06221@posting.google.com>


LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

                 unmoderated group comp.databases.etl

Newsgroups line:
comp.databases.etl Extraction, transformation, loading issues.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 2003.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Cara Altman <caltman12_at_comcast.net> Votetaker: David E. Smith <dave_at_technopagan.org>

RATIONALE: comp.databases.etl

This newsgroup will be for the discussion of topics related to ETL: the extraction, transfer, and loading of data from one database to another database. ETL is a known acronym to people who work with databases. It is used to represent the acquisition, integration used and mobility of data between systems and organizations. This newsgroup will be a central source for ETL usenet users to go to when they face a difficult ETL challenge and wish to obtain independent feedback.

This newsgroup will be useful to those involved in the complex task of implementing data warehousing, customer relationship management (CRM), business intelligence (BI) and other datacentric  projects. The newsgroup comp.databases touch on ETL issues, but these messages are scattered. When searching for ETL messages, postings were discovered in numerous newsgroups:

comp.databases
comp.databases.ibm-db2
comp.databases.sybase
comp.databases.oracle.tools
comp.databases.oracle.server
comp.databases.oracle.misc
comp.databases.oracle.tools
comp.databases.oracle.server
comp.databases.olap
comp.infosystems.www.databases
comp.infosystems.intranet
comp.text.xml
comp.infosystems.search
comp.realtime
comp.databases.informix
comp.soft-sys.khoros
comp.sys.hp.mpe
microsoft.public.sqlserver.datawarehouse
microsoft.public.oledb.olap
microsoft.public.oledb.olap

This is not a complete list. There were so many messages to pour through, and the end of the search list seemed very far away. A commonly repeated question found was "Why use ETL tools? Which ones are good?"

There are many complex issues surrounding the purchase or development of an ETL tool. Cost, schedule, and effectiveness are probably the most common. This forum will aid those who are weighing their options about whether to build or buy. It will give users a place to express their opinions on what factors to consider when implementing an ETL solution, and what ETL tools best suit specific ETL needs. Additionally, the ETL knowledgebase can be expanded through the creation of its own forum.

CHARTER: comp.databases.etl

This forum provides a place for people to discuss ETL (extraction, transformation, and loading) architectures. Participants can correspond regardless of the type of project on which they are focused. Information can be exchanged on evaluations of COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf Software) ETL tools, as well as the scope of developing custom ETL solutions. The term ETL has an industry track record of better than five years, and is commonly known in the RDBMS (relational database management system) market.

This newsgroup provides an easy-to-find source for ETL users to go when they face a difficult ETL challenge and wish to obtain independent feedback.

Commercial postings are discouraged. However, ETL tool vendors and solutions companies are welcome to add their opinions and to post answers or clarifications to discussions.

Sample topics for discussion include:

Data quality assessment/resolution
Complex transformation templates
Load balancing/management
Data mapping
XML support
Error management
Tool evaluation
Custom solutions
Technology tips & tricks

END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested parties defeats this purpose. Do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote: All email addresses, names and votes will be listed in the final RESULT post. The name used may be either a real name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist). Votes from nonexistent accounts or with munged, spam-blocked, or undeliverable addresses are invalid and will NOT be counted. Votes sent from addresses with a challenge-response system in place will not be counted if the votetaker receives a "challenge" message.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at <dave_at_technopagan.org>

HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your real name (or established Usenet handle) and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

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Voter Name:

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 Your Vote Newsgroup

DISTRIBUTION: This CFV will be posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.databases
comp.databases.olap
comp.infosystems.www.databases

Pointers to the CFV will be posted to the following newsgroups:

comp.databases.ibm-db2
comp.databases.sybase
comp.databases.oracle.misc
comp.databases.oracle.tools
comp.databases.oracle.server
comp.databases.informix
comp.infosystems.intranet
comp.text.xml
comp.infosystems.search
comp.realtime
comp.soft-sys.khoros
comp.sys.hp.mpe
microsoft.public.sqlserver.datawarehouse
microsoft.public.oledb.olap
microsoft.public.data.oledb.olap

microsoft.public.sqlserver.olap
microsoft.public.commerceserver.datawarehousing Received on Fri Dec 05 2003 - 09:16:02 CST

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