Re: [noise][Netiquette] Re: Design approaches about primary key

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:53:24 -0800
Message-ID: <1070459635.416777@yasure>

Alkos wrote:

> "Sybrand Bakker" <gooiditweg_at_sybrandb.nospam.demon.nl> a écrit dans le
> message news: s9ppsv4hbv7s1die9thdlng3tto6vr3kb2_at_4ax.com...
>

>>On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:02:02 +0100, "Alkos" <azerty_at_nospam.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi man,
>>>
>>>Do you really think that Euro-dev is better than US ?
>>>Nationality is not the issue. Skill is . . .
>>>
>>>Alkos
>>
>>You are wrong about skills. Too many 'developers' only skill is to hit
>>buttons... the wrong ones! They never ever received any *formal*
>>tuition, they don't even know a thing about normalization, they set up
>>tables without primary and foreign keys, etc, etc, etc.
>>Yes they have skills... to hack that is. Basically they can't develop
>>at all, and if no one is overseeing their work, or (which is quite
>>common) their manager doesn't know anything about IT too, you'll
>>invariably end up with a system in need of urgent repair.
>>Alas, when it is discovered this is necessary the 'system' is
>>production and the developers to the Norht Pole.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA

>
>
> I agree with you. By skill, I meant indeed the 'right' skills needed
> to design apps that work correctly whatever the birth or living place of the
> person.
>
> You are right in your analysis of the lifecycle of a software.
> My opinion is IT managers must (note the "must") have valuable IT knowledge
> i.e. understand the basics and the depths of software engineering and
> project managing.
>
> However, there a few companies where IT is considered as a strategical
> activity even when it isn't the company's business core. In these places,
> development is managed, code reviews exist and production installations are
> submitted to harsh validation tests.
>
> I don't think such companies are quite common. Does somebody want to share
> his ou her experience about that ?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Alkos

You mean beyond the fact that it is tragically rare and often doesn't happen in companies even when doing so is a written policy? ;-)

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Received on Wed Dec 03 2003 - 07:53:24 CST