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Re: Optimal Flexible Architecture (OFA)

From: Burt Peltier <burttemp1ReMoVeThIs_at_bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:49:00 -0600
Message-ID: <9QGtb.4380$a7.2335@bignews3.bellsouth.net>

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"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1068951709.23503_at_yasure...

> Comments in-line.
>
> Howard J. Rogers wrote:
>
> > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> > news:1068939309.645607_at_yasure...
> >
> >>You are focusing on one aspect of OFA that, I know, is a big issue
> >>in this usenet group due to the promotors of mythology. But OFA is
> >>also, and I'd argue far more importantly, the way home directories
> >>are laid out.
> >
> >
> > I wasn't focusing on anything in particular. As I said, I/O contention
is
> > one aspect (dealt with by RAID) -and it's not all mythology, sinc SYSTEM
and
> > UNDO and TEMP should not be sharing the same device, except that in RAID
you
> > have no say in the matter, and probably don't need a say anyway. But the
> > other aspects I also dealt with. Including the one of multiple homes...
> > which ideally shouldn't arise, as I said. But if it does, then I fail to
see
> > why /product/oracle/8.1.7 and /product/oracle/9.2.0 is any better than
> > /8.1.7 and /9.2.0.
I agree that OFA is just trying to spell out commen sense for those who do not have any :)
>
> Oh you of little experience dealing with some Americans. I have seen
> single machines with Oracle installed like this:
Are you saying only Americans are ... lacking commen sense ?
>
> /apps/oracle/bin
> /etc/oracle/bin
> /var/oracle/bin
> u01/bin
>
> And all on one machine. Each one a different version.
>
> > The one saving grace of OFA is that it would be the same on multiple
> > installations, and you would know where to expect things to be. I can't
put
> > a price on that, so the discussion may be moot.
> >
> > But OFA was only ever commonsense writ large, and provided *someone's*
> > commonsense applies, I see no reason to slavishly adopt OFA these days.
OFA
> > *principles*, yes. OFA itself... not necessarily.
> >
> > Regards
> > HJR
>
> When it comes to some aspects of OFA I agree. And it comes to throwing
> in politically charged words like "slavishly" I agree too. But I don't
> agree that every SysAdmin and every DBA should just go install Oracle
> any d... place on the disk array they feel like installing it ignoring
> the cost to their employer every time any other employee or contractor
> or consultant comes in and tries to do some work and first has to create
> a map of where they put things.
>
> One can adhere to a standard because it has value without being a slave
> to it. I, for example, could wear a kilt to work but still choose to
> wear slacks. Don't have to but I figure my legs are as ugly as some
> people's Oracle installations. And no one should have to see either.
> --
> Daniel Morgan
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> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
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>
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