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Re: Episode 2: the EntMgr Green Light!!

From: Domenic G. <domenicg_at_hotmail.com>
Date: 8 Nov 2003 12:44:56 -0800
Message-ID: <c7e08a19.0311081244.7f0acdb@posting.google.com>


Niall,

Thanks for your input. I have a few questions ...

What is the purpose of a reverse-key index then? Surely the guys at Oracle who can actually see inside the code know more than us?

I'm only doing what Oracle taught me to do. They should know their product. Are you saying they're wrong?

Sometimes DBAs have nothing to do. At least by doing these things, I feel like I'm being proactive, even if the benefit is negligible or none. Besides, the system is idle overnight, so why can't I schedule these rebuilds? -- they're not locking anybody out or doing harm.

Wouldn't a more compact index reduce I/O? In university, I wrote C++ code to implement b-tree indexes and I'm not sure what you're saying is true. The index is always better organized when it is rebuilt by scanning all the data in the table. It depends on the datatype and the exact methodology. So while I do understand your point, my point is this -- without actually looking inside a block or seeing Oracle's code, you're guessing as much as I am. I'm just following their recommendations, and that's all I can do since their source is not open.

Dom.

"Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield_at_dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<3facffdd$0$5413$cc9e4d1f_at_news.dial.pipex.com>...
> "Domenic G." <domenicg_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c7e08a19.0311071536.59d4125a_at_posting.google.com...
> > Why would vendors care if I rebuild one of their indexes.
>
> Well I hope I gave at least some reasons why your 2 minute phone call to the
> vendor might not have been a waste of time.
>
> > Is there a
> > law banning it somewhere?
>
> Lw 530, Subsection 2, Paragraph 1 "the ladybird big book of laws" .:)
>
> > Documented procedures are for drones or
> > monkeys -- level 1 support, not for trained professionals.
>
> Tosh. If you can't see the benefit of documented repeatable behaviour then
> you are probably appropriating the word professional inappropriately.
>
> > Screw support contracts -- they're just an excuse to do nothing.
>
> No they define rights and expectations on both sides, like all contracts do.
> I assume you never call your vendors since you don't expect any help from
> them?
>
>
> --
> Niall Litchfield
> Oracle DBA
> Audit Commission UK
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Received on Sat Nov 08 2003 - 14:44:56 CST

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