Very well put. We must tax companies that send jobs over seas as well.
There is a bill headed for the hill on just this. Hope it passes.
"Van Messner" <vmessner_at_bestweb.net> wrote in message
news:vpe8mjb9l4n46a_at_corp.supernews.com...
> The H1B program started as a way to let people with "critical skills"
> enter the US. It was said there were not enough Americans with these
skills
> to do the work. For a long while most H1B workers came here to do
computer
> work. With the slowdown in IT spending many are now coming to do nursing
or
> other medical work.
> An H1B is a work visa that must be held by an employer. It is
different
> from a green card which can take 5 years or more to obtain. The green
card
> allows a foreign citizen to stay and work in this country for as long as
he
> wishes and no employer has to hold his visa.
> There are many rules that apply to H1B workers. Most of the employers
> who hold H1B visas are agencies that rent their employees out to American
> companies. The agency might bill the American company $95/hour for
> senior-level DBA services and pay the H1B worker $45/hour. The $50/hour
> difference is profit for the holder of the H1B visa. Employers are
supposed
> to pay their H1B workers whether they are able to rent them out or not.
If
> the employer doesn't pay the H1B worker, the employer is supposed to
ensure
> the H1B worker returns to his country of origin within a few weeks. In
> practice there is no enforcement of these rules. Generally if the
employing
> agency cannot find work for the H1B visa holder, he stops paying the
worker,
> but the worker remains in the US. The INS has no way of tracking this.
>
> This will probably change. American companies are starting to realize
> that instead of paying a huge markup to an employer who has H1Bs to rent,
> they can simply go to the H1B's country of origin and hire him there. A
> mid-level H1B Oracle DBA with the markup, costs an American company
> $65,000 - $95,000 a year in America. In India that same worker costs
under
> $10,000 a year.
>
>
> "DJ" <nospamplease_at_goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:waElb.1253$C85.8818_at_newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
> >
> > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> > news:1066854774.209829_at_yasure...
> > > No_h1b_visas_ever_again wrote:
> > >
> > > >All you Oracle pros out there. We've been getting low balled for the
> > last 2
> > > >years. It's time to fight back.
> > > >
> > > >1) Raise your rates to at least $70/hr
> > > >
> > > >2) DON'T hire East Indians or Russians, or work for them
> > > >
> > > >3) Spread the word about companys that export jobs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 1. Force yourself into unemployement?
> > > 2. Most of "us" aren't employers so you can safely bet we won't be
> > > hiring anyone.
> > > 3. And accomplish precisely what?
> > >
> > > Let me suggest to you an alternative strategy:
> > >
> > > 1. Get your Oracle skills up to the point that you know as much as
those
> > > you complain about.
> > >
> > > Here's a quick test to see if you qualify.
> > > Q1 Name at least two Oracle objects that allow overloading?
> > > Q2. Name at least six different types of Oracle index and describe
> > > when to use them?
> > > Q3. Same as Q2 but describe when not to use them and when not to
use
> > > any index?
> > > Q4. Write a single line of code that will identify whether a
string
> > > is formatted as a valid phone number?
> > > Q5. What is the difference between TRANSLATE and REPLACE?
> > > Q6. What resources in Oracle are limiting resources?
> > > Q7. How do you resolve a many-to-many relationship in an ERD?
> > > Q8. What built-in package is used with transportable tablespaces?
> > >
> > > There are thousands of these that I would expect most of those here on
> > > H1B Visas can answer but
> > > where I suspect the average US developer would be clueless. The point
is
> > > that Americans no longer
> > > seem to value education.
> > >
> > > 2. Stop acting like you are entitled to a job and consider exactly how
> > > much actual work you have
> > > accomplished at the end of each day, each week, each month.
> > >
> > > 3. Add value to your project by discovering and exploring
considerations
> > > that no East Indian or
> > > Russian could possibly understand or ask about your organization. Do
you
> > > understand your
> > > organization's accounting procedures? distribution contracts? vendor
> > > relations? And do you bring
> > > that knowledge to what you do or are you just banging code?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Morgan
> > > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
> > > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
> > > damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> > > (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
> > >
> >
> > for us Non-Americans whats an H1B visa? Is it a grren card?
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Wed Oct 22 2003 - 21:15:56 CDT
