Re: RAIS THE RATES!!!!!!

    The H1B program started as a way to let people with "critical skills" enter the US. It was said there were not enough Americans with these skills to do the work. For a long while most H1B workers came here to do computer work. With the slowdown in IT spending many are now coming to do nursing or other medical work.

    An H1B is a work visa that must be held by an employer. It is different from a green card which can take 5 years or more to obtain. The green card allows a foreign citizen to stay and work in this country for as long as he wishes and no employer has to hold his visa.

    There are many rules that apply to H1B workers. Most of the employers who hold H1B visas are agencies that rent their employees out to American companies. The agency might bill the American company $95/hour for senior-level DBA services and pay the H1B worker $45/hour. The $50/hour difference is profit for the holder of the H1B visa. Employers are supposed to pay their H1B workers whether they are able to rent them out or not. If the employer doesn't pay the H1B worker, the employer is supposed to ensure the H1B worker returns to his country of origin within a few weeks. In practice there is no enforcement of these rules. Generally if the employing agency cannot find work for the H1B visa holder, he stops paying the worker, but the worker remains in the US. The INS has no way of tracking this.

    This will probably change. American companies are starting to realize that instead of paying a huge markup to an employer who has H1Bs to rent, they can simply go to the H1B's country of origin and hire him there. A mid-level H1B Oracle DBA with the markup, costs an American company $65,000 - $95,000 a year in America. In India that same worker costs under $10,000 a year.

"DJ" <nospamplease_at_goaway.com> wrote in message news:waElb.1253$C85.8818_at_newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
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> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:1066854774.209829_at_yasure...
> > No_h1b_visas_ever_again wrote:
> >
> > >All you Oracle pros out there. We've been getting low balled for the
> last 2
> > >years. It's time to fight back.
> > >
> > >1) Raise your rates to at least $70/hr
> > >
> > >2) DON'T hire East Indians or Russians, or work for them
> > >
> > >3) Spread the word about companys that export jobs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 1. Force yourself into unemployement?
> > 2. Most of "us" aren't employers so you can safely bet we won't be
> > hiring anyone.
> > 3. And accomplish precisely what?
> >
> > Let me suggest to you an alternative strategy:
> >
> > 1. Get your Oracle skills up to the point that you know as much as those
> > you complain about.
> >
> > Here's a quick test to see if you qualify.
> > Q1 Name at least two Oracle objects that allow overloading?
> > Q2. Name at least six different types of Oracle index and describe
> > when to use them?
> > Q3. Same as Q2 but describe when not to use them and when not to use
> > any index?
> > Q4. Write a single line of code that will identify whether a string
> > is formatted as a valid phone number?
> > Q5. What is the difference between TRANSLATE and REPLACE?
> > Q6. What resources in Oracle are limiting resources?
> > Q7. How do you resolve a many-to-many relationship in an ERD?
> > Q8. What built-in package is used with transportable tablespaces?
> >
> > There are thousands of these that I would expect most of those here on
> > H1B Visas can answer but
> > where I suspect the average US developer would be clueless. The point is
> > that Americans no longer
> > seem to value education.
> >
> > 2. Stop acting like you are entitled to a job and consider exactly how
> > much actual work you have
> > accomplished at the end of each day, each week, each month.
> >
> > 3. Add value to your project by discovering and exploring considerations
> > that no East Indian or
> > Russian could possibly understand or ask about your organization. Do you
> > understand your
> > organization's accounting procedures? distribution contracts? vendor
> > relations? And do you bring
> > that knowledge to what you do or are you just banging code?
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Morgan
> > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
> > http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
> > damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> > (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
> >
>
> for us Non-Americans whats an H1B visa? Is it a grren card?
>
>
Received on Wed Oct 22 2003 - 19:33:35 CDT