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Re: anyone use BEA WebLogic or IBM Websphere against an Oracle database?

From: Hans Forbrich <forbrich_at_telusplanet.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:53:03 GMT
Message-ID: <3F1F4815.46762ED6@telusplanet.net>


Ryan wrote:

> > I agree, it's rediculous to have to do a complete install of 9iAS just to
> > get Forms & Reports functionality, Oracle forces the user to install all
> of
> > the scalability features before they needed, indee if they are needed,
> > forget the guy who just needs a server running forms and reports services
> > (though they do support de-installing everything else after the fact).
> >
> ive never used 9iAS and I got forms and reports 9i running with just apache
> and running the OC4J. Thats it.
> when do you need 9iAS for this or is that just licensing? I still dont
> understand what additional functionality 9iAS adds?

Look at http://otn.oracle.com > products for a list of what is included in 9iAS. And http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/ias/ for the 'business' stuff (the stuff we tekkies think is marketing fluff). And http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/ias/index.html?pkgsum.html for an overview.

As for 'loading all that crap', IMO Oracle is going down the right direction (even if they are not quite there in the implementation) ... in today's market, 4 GB disk space is inexpensive. Preloading all the stuff onto disk in one shot and ensuring it is in the correct place is far less expensive than having an administrator try to figure out which parts are required and lay them down individually. You really don't need to fire up the stuff you don't need so it's only taking up disk space.

That said, I'm looking forward to the day when they have the integration tight & solid enough that the frequent "it's patchwork crap" comments start to die. Received on Wed Jul 23 2003 - 21:53:03 CDT

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