Re: Expanded Oracle DBA Site

Not exactly, but close. The order of events is that HJR created these works on his own time while employed by Oracle. Because he created the works on his own time, he thought that he owned them. He published the works to his web site. Other site owners downloaded the works and posted them on other sites (I don't know if HJR gave permission or not). Someone from Oracle somehow found out about the works on the HJR site. Then HJR was informed by Oracle that he was not entitled to the copyright because of terms in the Oracle employment agreement, and was told to remove the works from his site, which he did.

Now, this does leave open some issues. I am not a lawyer, so I don't know who has the reponsibility to enforce the removal of the documents from the various sites that still have them posted. If HJR worked out something with Oracle, and he now does own the copyright, then he should be able to enforce it. If Oracle really still owns the copyright, then I would think that Oracle has the right to enforce it. Either way, the material is excellentbetter  than anything Oracle has "officially" published, and I hope whoever owns the material allows it to remain available. His "Backup and Recovery" document is a must-have. HJR should be thanked for sharing his time and knowledge with others, not raked over the coals. So, I close with a big thank you to Howard.

"Geomancer" <pharfromhome_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cf90fb89.0304221541.3df9d729_at_posting.google.com...
> This is unbelievable!
>
> I read the other thread carefully, now let me see if I have the facts
> straight:
>
> 1 - Howard J. Rogers writes in the other thread that "anything I write
> related to Oracle matters whilst employed by Oracle belongs to
> Oracle".
>
> 2 - Howard J. Rogers puts it on www.hjrdba.com anyway, and marks it
> with his copyright, even though he knows that Oracle Corporation owns
> the information.
>
> 3 - Oracle Corporation finds out, and insists that Howard J. Rogers
> remove their material.
>
> 4 - Howard J. Rogers tells Oracle he will comply, but posts that "it
> is worthwhile to keep going".
>
> 5 - He then creates his "5th" hidden site, Lydian Third, and
> reproduces Oracle's information, against their direct orders, and
> under his false copyright.
>
> 6 - Howard J. Rogers then accuses Jeff Hunter (crossposting to SIX
> newsgroups) of being a "perp" and "pinching" uinformation that he know
> was not his.
>
> Whew! I think I got it right.
>
> To me, it sounds like Hunter has a whale of a complaint against Howard
> J. Rogers and Oracle Corporation.
Received on Wed Apr 23 2003 - 09:13:42 CDT