Re: Heavens!

Just a thought.....

Maybe a great service you senior class men could offer to all the Oracle neophytes would be a "review of books".

Perhaps encourage submission of questionable advise from these texts for the analysis and possible repudiation of same from the group experts.

When you read the reviews from sites like Amazon you soon learn (sometimes the hard way - after purchase) that whom ever writes the reviews of 'most' of the Oracle books must be related or a close friend of the author.

Howard Rogers wrote:

> "Nuno Souto" <wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<5T%ma.15205$1s1.240230_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>...
> >
> > > Online Redo Logs:
> > > snipperoo...
> > > Scary, huh?
> >
> >
> > Don't even know where to start...
> >
> >
> > > I wouldn't mind, but the organisation that has this for download proudly
> > > boasts on its home page that it is an Oracle Approved Training Centre.
> >
> >
> > Shows how much that endorsement is worth, doesn't it?
> > Ah yes I forgot: it's all about revenue!
> > Certainly not about *training*...
> >
>
> You might certainly think that, but I couldn't possibly comment....
>
> >
> > >
> > > Sometimes, I despair. There really seems, sometimes, very little point
> in
> > > trying to learn (or teach) this stuff properly when this nonsense is
> doing
> > > the rounds, or certain well-known authors promote their rubbish ad
> nauseum.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Howard, one of the reasons I gave up on being a full time DBA
> > was that for nearly 14 years I was bombarded with this kind
> > of rubbish. By whomever Oracle decided to promote as
> > "expert du jour".
> >
> > On and on, relentlessly, I had to put up with this sort of rubbish
> > and a LOT MORE. And *NOT ONCE* did Oracle EVER support me in getting
> > this ignorance off the market. Quite the opposite, in fact.
> > Dunno about you, but it gets sort of "under the skin" after a while...
>
> Very much so. I practically tore the head off one student two weeks' ago who
> disagreed with my explanation of Block Sizes ... 'it says in <insert name of
> well known book here> that big blocks are for Warehouses and small ones are
> for OLTP'. I give up.
>
> The whole thing is marketing gone utterly mad. I wouldn't mind the Peddlar's
> peddling as hard as they do if they for one moment would shut up about how
> 'expert', 'respected' and 'leading' they are. But they don't, because
> they're only interested in leveraging their publishability for increased
> consulting fees. I don't see JL, TK and SA doing that (and of course they
> still make mistakes, as we all do), but somehow the market doesn't see the
> difference.
>
> It's not just a shame, it's abysmal. And absurd.
>
> Maybe I should try to care less. Dunno. I've tried it, and maybe its just
> the Catholic boy in me, but there *is* a right and wrong answer, and try as
> hard as I might, I can't bring myself to let the wrong answer... the totally
> incompetent answer... lie on the record.
>
> Meanwhile, the Peddlars get rich and I get an ulcer.
>
> God clearly hates scientific DBAs.
>
> I'm thinking of taking up a much less stressful occupation, such as
> 'housewife'.
>
> >
> >
> > > (Oh, and incidentally, this is all contained in their "helpful"
> exam-cram
> > > for 8i OCP Backup and Recovery exam. I wonder if any of their students
> ever
> > > passed?).
> >
> > Of course they passed! I've met heaps of them around...
>
> None from my courses, I assure you!!
>
> Regards
> HJR
>
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam
Received on Wed Apr 16 2003 - 10:03:03 CDT