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Re: RAC High End Scalability?

From: Jim Kennedy <kennedy-downwithspammersfamily_at_attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:31:27 GMT
Message-ID: <jUC4a.173938$Ec4.177599@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>


You are correct and imagine you add another server to your SQLServer cluster. Now you have to redistribute all that data over the again! Ouch!
Jim
"JustAnotherDBA" <jadba_at_bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:asC4a.113763$JY6.100052_at_fe02.atl2.webusenet.com...
>
> "Stephan Bressler" <stephan.bressler_at_siemens.com> wrote in message
> news:b2tg11$771$1_at_news.mch.sbs.de...
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > setting up RAC successfully highly depends on whether or not the
> application
> > can be partitioned into logical units (e.g. sales europe/asia/north
> america)
> > or whether you run independent applications on the nodes (e.g.
operational
> > system and DWH).
> > If the nodes access (modify!) the same dataset frequently, RAC is not an
> > option without an database/application redesign.
> >
> > But if this is not possible, mssql isn't an option at all. This one
> > literally relies on partitioning. The URL
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/features/distpart.asp)
mentioned
> in
> > the documents reads:
> >
> > The Distributed Partitioned Views feature shares the database-processing
> > load across a group of servers,
> > !!!! by horizontally partitioning the SQL Server 2000 data !!!!
> >
> > in the first sentence.
> >
> > It may be true that oracle does not scale well in some (a lot?) of
> > scenarios, but I believe mssql to perform even worse.
> >
>
> The setup for sql server clustering seems to be the bigger problem to me.
>
> I could be wrong, but doesn't the sql server clustering require actually
> splitting data into different copies for each node and then merging the
data
> with a view ?
>
> Who in their right mind would implement something like that ?
>
> It seems misleading to even allow in tpc.org benchmarks something (like
> this) that no one would put in a real production database.
>
>
> > BTW: TPC-C is partitioned horizontally by design.
> >
> > Stephan
> >
> >
> > "Michael Harvey" <mgharvey_at_bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:5b945v88h9rg40to39sab6cauio7r855gj_at_4ax.com...
> > >
> > > ORACLE make lots of claims about the scalability of RAC that I would
> > > like to believe.
> > >
> > > Microsoft recently (late last year) published a paper disputing some
> > > of these claims.
> > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/RealityBehind_RAC.pdf
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Received on Tue Feb 18 2003 - 21:31:27 CST

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