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Re: Oracle and Java. Does Oracle know something some of us don't?

From: Rob Mitchell <rjmitchell_at_attbi.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:51:11 GMT
Message-ID: <jxbY9.22809$AV4.2458@sccrnsc01>


Being in the software development business for over 16 years now, it seems to me that languages come and go but the overall technology seems to be quite cyclical. We went from mainframes to minis to workstations to PC, from central processing to distributed processing and (with J2EE) back to central processing. We went from proprietary communication technologies (big and small) to non-proprietary (small and fast) and back to message oriented communication (verbose again).

Languages are just that, languages. Mostly hype, IMHO. Sure, they get the job done, but they'll only be around for a few years before morphing into a new language.

Its important for us technologists to keep focusing on solving problems and innovating solutions.

OK, back to coding now.



Rob Mitchell
Base Class Technologies, Inc.
Java, WebSphere, Domino, Oracle, Web development rjmitchell_at_attbi.com

"Simon Lenn" <simonlenn_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3641e2c2.0301072212.42d34edb_at_posting.google.com...
> I agree with Galen.
>
> I do not understand all this fuss about people jumping about Java.
> Look at Oracle's JSQL (Java SQL) it is Oracle proprietary how about
> Oracle OC4J it is proprietary.
>
> Use JSQL and OC4J your dream of running Java on another database is
> just not possible your code is unportable. Apart from Oracle I do not
> know any other vendor support Java based database development not sure
> how well DB2 supports Java stored procedure.
>
> Guys whoever thinks Java is the way to go go ahead and use Java
> perhaps in 3 years you will not have a job. I am serious. Look at
> Sun's stock price if Java was something so exotic why is Sun not
> making a cent from Java. They are earning on servers and spending on
> Java and also spending on law suits sueing MS. The only money they are
> making is from the awards they have won from those law suits. If you
> think I am wrong watch next 3 years where Java will be. Already MS is
> offering the C# SDK for free download. I will leave it to time to
> decide future of Java.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Galen Boyer <galenboyer_at_hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:<uwulgvg7a.fsf_at_standardandpoors.com>...
> > On Sun, 05 Jan 2003, dmz17_at_nospam.nowhere.com wrote:
> > >
> > > To Microsoft, portability means it runs on all versions of
> > > Windows. To Oracle it means it runs on/in every Oracle
> > > Database.
> >
> > Nope, it means it runs on all versions of SQLServer that runs on
> > all version of Windows.
> >
> > Oracle means it runs on all versions of Oracle on all operating
> > systems.
> >
> > There is no database portability just like there is no OS
> > portability. Oracle custom writes its engine for each OS so that
> > any Oracle application is OS independent, but you will never get
> > database independence unless you write custom code for each
> > database.
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