Re: Comparison of Java, C# for development on Windows and future for them

Chad Myers <cmyers_at_n0.sp.4m.austin.rr.com> wrote:

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<random snippage from here on out>
>> Basically, all of unix is one big IDE (especially >> if you install the "developer packages").

> Hrm, I disagree. An IDE is an "integrated" environment
...

If you read the discussion this way, it sounds wierd. Maybe you missed that sentance!

> Most IDEs are visual, whereas
> VI is more character mode.

The irony here is that VI stands for VIsual. %-)

>But to call VI an IDE is a little misguided. VI is a very powerful >editor.

This is correct.

But let us observe this verocious beast in its natural habitat, namely, the unix environment. We see now, that vim has hooks into ctags, make, ispell, etc.. and that these again have hooks branching out and so-forth, making the undergrowth in this virtual jungle so thick, that it is impossible to tell where the one starts and the other ends.

Let's try and feed it and see what happens. Yikes! You see that?

Let's look again, now in slow motion... here one moment I was still typing the source-code, feeding it one crumb at a time and then, all at once: SNAP! A running programme.

Fascinating.

> Oh, I'm sure many people don't like full-blown IDEs for development.

And some people consider them perhaps too light? Just an opinion... *innocent look*

<snip the Edding around>

> This is a joke from the GNU humor page "Ed man!, !man ed"

Beware of GNU humor. Much of it is "haha only serious". Ed actually exists and lives on!

>> >> I think it's called finger. ;-)
>>
>> > You can do calendar scheduling over finger? :)
>>
>> Yup.
>> chmod g+w .plan
>>
>> Now people can log in and do stuff like:
>> echo "G\na\nCome by the old docks tomorrow at noon or else!\n.\nw\n" |
>>       ed ~chad/.plan
>>
>> See? They can even use the worlds' best text editor if they like.
>> What more could you want? Mermaids?

> How does that schedule and set reminders?

I just showed you. :-) You *did* ask for it you know! :-)

A better way to set reminders is not to use ed, but rather to use "mail"+"at" instead.

>Is there a sync program
> for my Palm or PocketPC?

I'm not sure. Can those do TCP?

>Can I invite other members and see their
> free/buys status?

Yes. I showed you, if you use a little imagination you could get it to work quite nicely.

>Can I host an "online" meeting?

You could do this with ed+finger, but perhaps the programme "talk" is more suitable for this.

Really, MS is only about 3 decades behind the leading edge, their software is only a bit prettier. ;-)

>> Actually, that's quite a flexible way of dealing with schedules.

> Um, sure. I'll take your word for it.

You ask, we deliver. :-) (I do have a reputation to keep up you know. ;-) )

<snip shared source>
> The point, as I understand it, is to allow people to view
> the source, but not much else.

I've read some alarmist articles about shared source, I'm not sure it's safe to even glance at it. Talk about viral licencing ;-) Thank you for your link, I'll take a look. :-)

>I just know that the MS guys are always
> careful to point out, "it's NOT interpreted".

Too bad. Interpreters are very nice.

read you soon,

        Kim Bruning Received on Sun Jan 12 2003 - 09:00:14 CST