Re: Money is a great thing, but strong ethic is better (I think, but Oracle not)

"DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3E1DA903.4DD373EE_at_exesolutions.com...
> Noons wrote:
>
> > pagesflames_at_usa.net (Dusan Bolek) wrote in
> > news:1e8276d6.0301080716.efe4bf5_at_posting.google.com and I quote:
> >
> > > The problem is that as server we will use one SF6800 domain, because
> > > of clustering and also because we have one SF6800 with free place for
> > > another domain. SF6800s are almost high end solution, so each domain
> > > is expandable up to 16 CPUs. You have probably got clue about our
> > > problem now.
> >
> > Yup. Go for user licenses instead of by CPU. It's there
> > to be used in cases like this?
> >
> > > advanced features of EE. In our particular case this simple sentence
> > > would cost as more than 100.000$ for dual CPU server with clustered
> > > backup.
> >
> > Talk to your Oracle sales rep. I'm sure they'll see the light.
> >
> > > other logical explanation than robbing Oracle's customers. I think
> > > that with this one Oracle even defeated Microsoft in most unfavorable
> > > behaviour to its customers. I can see for maybe last two years that
> > > Oracle attitude to its consumers drastically change and now it is
> > > just: get how much money you can and take no care about that guy.
> >
> > True. Same applies to other makers, though.
> >
> > >
> > > Am I the only one with this feeling about Oracle's behaviour to its
> > > customers in last few years? I do now want to start flames, and I'm
> > > very positive about Oracle's products and their qualities, but this
> > > one just got me.
> >
> > No, you're not the only one. Talk to the rep and explain
> > the problems. Make sure he/she gets the message about DB2.
> > It's surprising how "flexible" they become when they hear
> > those two letters and one number!
> >
> > > Moral implication at the end: We will probably use DB2 for this
> > > application. I've never thought that I as long time Oracle fan will
> > > support implementing DB2 in our company. :-(
> > >
> >
> > Hey, if it does what you want and cheaper then it's fair go.
> > Oracle's problem for being too greedy. Mind you, IBM was no
> > charity organisation either last time I looked...
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam
>
> Good points all. And when talking to Oracle sales reps ... meetings that
> take place near the end of the month or financial quarter often result in
> more flexibility as sales persons try to make their quota.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>

If it's the difference between getting the business and losing the business, Oracle's pricing structure is more than "flexible" enough to cope.

Dates to note: End of Q3 Feb 28, End of FY03 May 31

Good Luck !!

Richard Received on Fri Jan 10 2003 - 03:00:50 CST