Re: Money is a great thing, but strong ethic is better (I think, but Oracle not)

Noons wrote:

> pagesflames_at_usa.net (Dusan Bolek) wrote in
> news:1e8276d6.0301080716.efe4bf5_at_posting.google.com and I quote:
>
> > The problem is that as server we will use one SF6800 domain, because
> > of clustering and also because we have one SF6800 with free place for
> > another domain. SF6800s are almost high end solution, so each domain
> > is expandable up to 16 CPUs. You have probably got clue about our
> > problem now.
>
> Yup. Go for user licenses instead of by CPU. It's there
> to be used in cases like this?
>
> > advanced features of EE. In our particular case this simple sentence
> > would cost as more than 100.000$ for dual CPU server with clustered
> > backup.
>
> Talk to your Oracle sales rep. I'm sure they'll see the light.
>
> > other logical explanation than robbing Oracle's customers. I think
> > that with this one Oracle even defeated Microsoft in most unfavorable
> > behaviour to its customers. I can see for maybe last two years that
> > Oracle attitude to its consumers drastically change and now it is
> > just: get how much money you can and take no care about that guy.
>
> True. Same applies to other makers, though.
>
> >
> > Am I the only one with this feeling about Oracle's behaviour to its
> > customers in last few years? I do now want to start flames, and I'm
> > very positive about Oracle's products and their qualities, but this
> > one just got me.
>
> No, you're not the only one. Talk to the rep and explain
> the problems. Make sure he/she gets the message about DB2.
> It's surprising how "flexible" they become when they hear
> those two letters and one number!
>
> > Moral implication at the end: We will probably use DB2 for this
> > application. I've never thought that I as long time Oracle fan will
> > support implementing DB2 in our company. :-(
> >
>
> Hey, if it does what you want and cheaper then it's fair go.
> Oracle's problem for being too greedy. Mind you, IBM was no
> charity organisation either last time I looked...
>
> --
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam

Good points all. And when talking to Oracle sales reps ... meetings that take place near the end of the month or financial quarter often result in more flexibility as sales persons try to make their quota.

Daniel Morgan Received on Thu Jan 09 2003 - 10:53:23 CST