Great idea. You can get a Sun Blade for not much. I think you can even put
2 CPUs in them and a fair amount of ram. Probably for under $3,000.
Jim
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"Terry Dykstra" <dontreply_tddykstra_at_forestoil.ca> wrote in message
news:eEXS9.144068$Zv4.9075726_at_news2.telusplanet.net...
> I feel the same way.
> Is buying a $10000 box an option? Seems cheaper than getting a DB2
licence.
>
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> Terry Dykstra
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> "Dusan Bolek" <pagesflames_at_usa.net> wrote in message
> news:1e8276d6.0301080716.efe4bf5_at_posting.google.com...
> > We're preparing implementation of new server. This server is from
> > database point of view very simple. Just small databases with only
> > moderate load and no advanced features will be used. The size of
> > solution is so small that we only plan to use dual CPU unit. So this
> > is just small system and Oracle Standard Edition would perfectly suit
> > our needs.
> > The problem is that as server we will use one SF6800 domain, because
> > of clustering and also because we have one SF6800 with free place for
> > another domain. SF6800s are almost high end solution, so each domain
> > is expandable up to 16 CPUs. You have probably got clue about our
> > problem now.
> > Money thirsty Oracle in its license terms are saying that:
> > The Oracle Database Standard Edition can only be licensed on servers
> > that have a *maximum capacity* of 4 processors.
> >
> > So we cannot use for this very simple application Standard Edition,
> > but must go to much more expensive EE, even if we do not need any of
> > advanced features of EE. In our particular case this simple sentence
> > would cost as more than 100.000$ for dual CPU server with clustered
> > backup.
> > Am I only one who think that this is very unfair? I can understand
> > limitation for SE on CPUs used, but maximum server CPU capacity has no
> > other logical explanation than robbing Oracle's customers. I think
> > that with this one Oracle even defeated Microsoft in most unfavorable
> > behaviour to its customers. I can see for maybe last two years that
> > Oracle attitude to its consumers drastically change and now it is
> > just: get how much money you can and take no care about that guy.
> > However this one is probably still the worst one. What has size of
> > case around CPUs common with using SE/EE probably knows only that guy
> > who wrote this. Funny is that worse box which offer with same
> > performance lower expansion possibilites than other is better to run
> > Oracle software now. :-)
> >
> > Am I the only one with this feeling about Oracle's behaviour to its
> > customers in last few years? I do now want to start flames, and I'm
> > very positive about Oracle's products and their qualities, but this
> > one just got me.
> >
> > Moral implication at the end: We will probably use DB2 for this
> > application. I've never thought that I as long time Oracle fan will
> > support implementing DB2 in our company. :-(
> >
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________________
> >
> > Dusan Bolek, Ing.
> > Oracle team leader
> >
> > Note: pagesflames_at_usa.net has been cancelled due to changes (maybe we
> > can call it an overture to bankruptcy) on that server. I'm still using
> > this email to prevent SPAM. Maybe one day I will change it and have a
> > proper mail even for news, but right now I can be reached by this
> > email.
>
>
Received on Wed Jan 08 2003 - 09:50:14 CST
