Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

"Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield_at_dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<3e142b3c$0$231$cc9e4d1f_at_news.dial.pipex.com>...
> "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:C%JQ9.14362
> > Well, as a member of the Australian Computer Society, these are exactly
> the
> > sorts of things you get examined in prior to acquiring membership. There
> are
> > several written papers, and if memory serves, not a
> multi-choice/multi-guess
> > paper amongst them.
> >
> > I'm positive the British Computer Society has the same sort of membership
> > requirements.
>
> I believe it does and suspect these might well be the way to go however...
>
> > There *are* industry recognised *professional* qualifications out there.
> But
> > OCP isn't one of them.
>
> I can't recall *ever* seeing a job ad that required the candidate to be a
> member of (or part qualified member of if such a thing exists) the BCS. I'd
> be surprised if the same wasn't true in Oz. The number of jobs that
> apparently *require* OCP/MCSE/CCNE on the other hand is relatively large -
> at least as advertised. In my book that means that the industry doesn't
> recognise general principles and a professional approach but does recognise
> skillsets. It is left to the reader to guess wether i think that this has
> anything to do with the generally abysmal record of the industry in doing
> its work, when compared to lawyers,engineers,accountants, teachers etc.

As Howard pointed out, in Australia we have the ACS (Australian Computing Society), of which there are stringent guidelines in which one has to adhere to become a member. I was a member during my university days but have not ventured this path again. (Though about it recently, but I'm taking a trip to the UK for a year). Although, I think the ACS is a great idea, and helps of the "policing" of the industry. The ACS is attempting to identify IT as a profession (actually, I think they have), by only allowing people to hold membership after they have completed the minimum qualifications. I'm not sure what the guidelines are, but I'm sure it's essential for a member to hold a Degree qualification.

Personally, I hope the ACS obtains more members and eventually ACS membership is used as a guide to fill Australian positions. I think it'll clean up the industry.

Cheers,

Greg Johnson
>
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> Niall Litchfield
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Received on Thu Jan 02 2003 - 16:43:58 CST