Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

"Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield_at_dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:3e142b3c$0$231$cc9e4d1f_at_news.dial.pipex.com...
> "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:C%JQ9.14362
> > Well, as a member of the Australian Computer Society, these are exactly
> the
> > sorts of things you get examined in prior to acquiring membership. There
> are
> > several written papers, and if memory serves, not a
> multi-choice/multi-guess
> > paper amongst them.
> >
> > I'm positive the British Computer Society has the same sort of
membership
> > requirements.
>
> I believe it does and suspect these might well be the way to go however...
>
> > There *are* industry recognised *professional* qualifications out there.
> But
> > OCP isn't one of them.
>
> I can't recall *ever* seeing a job ad that required the candidate to be a
> member of (or part qualified member of if such a thing exists) the BCS.
I'd
> be surprised if the same wasn't true in Oz. The number of jobs that
> apparently *require* OCP/MCSE/CCNE on the other hand is relatively large -
> at least as advertised. In my book that means that the industry doesn't
> recognise general principles and a professional approach but does
recognise
> skillsets. It is left to the reader to guess wether i think that this has
> anything to do with the generally abysmal record of the industry in doing
> its work, when compared to lawyers,engineers,accountants, teachers etc.
>

I shouldn't have said 'industry' recognized. That's true. I meant 'professionally recognised'. In particular, if you ever try to migrate to Australia, the government requires the ACS to assess your qualifications before you're allocated your points (and as we all know, points make visas). Yes, the ACS will take into account things like OCP and MCSE when making its assessment. But they require 'relevant experience' as well. And (here's my real point) membership of the ACS is sufficient in and of itself to get you the points.

(Or was in 1998, anyway).

Regards
HJR
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