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Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

From: Joel Garry <joel-garry_at_home.com>
Date: 31 Dec 2002 12:17:00 -0800
Message-ID: <91884734.0212311217.3c922c6b@posting.google.com>


Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message news:<aur2ip02dfh_at_drn.newsguy.com>...
> In article <3e109f82$0$227$cc9e4d1f_at_news.dial.pipex.com>, "Niall says...
> >
> >"Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
> >news:aupvgr05cf_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> >> Bertram
> >>
> >> I've stayed out of this discussion until now because I didn't really see
> >> anywhere I could add value, but this is something I can help with. Having
> been
> >> through the OCM exam, I can tell you it's VERY worthwhile, not to mention
> bloody
> >> exhausting!
> >
> >I'm assuming that you are saying that it s very worthwhile *as an
> >educational tool*, as opposed to as a resume enhancing device. I'm sure that
> >you are correct, I'm unsure if employers will see it that way.
>
> Just to clarify what I meant, rather than extend the discussion further since
> it's already just rehashing previous discussions, what I meant was that it is
> very worthwhile as a tool to PROVE that you can DO the things that are tested
> for, rather than just being able to answer questions about a topic. You simply
> can't get through the OCM without a lot of practical experience ergo it's a tool
> that shows your SKILL as well as your knowledge. That to me is useful as an
> educational tool and to employers. Very few interviews that I've ever been
> involved with (on either side) have actually done that.

Now, where have I heard that before?

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&th=566f08129270dbf3&rnum=1
>
> Pete
> >
> >Incidentally if people can get their employers to stump up for the training
> >then that is most certainly worthwhile, even if the resulting certification
> >leaves much to be desired. For me Oracle education, these newsgroups and the
> >docs have been the best education around, and in approximately equal
> >measure.
> >
> >
> >--

Hear, hear.

jg

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Received on Tue Dec 31 2002 - 14:17:00 CST

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