Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

mngong_at_yahoo.com (michael ngong) wrote in news:ecf365d5.0212300712.3f569f66_at_posting.google.com and I quote:

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>> Good.  Let's scrap the thing then.  I think that's what Oracle is 
>> starting to do with this measure.

If they are run by the maker of such subjects and without any formal definitioon of the final qualification obtained, yes.

You see, while Oracle insists on not exactly defining and specialising the OCP the whole thing will always be bogus. You can't just "declare" a certification as valid just because you happen to be the main manufacturer of the subject of the certification. (well, actually you *can*, but then you gotta be prepared for some flak...)

Compare this for example with the Cisco certifications. They are VERY well defined and they cover the industry area, not the individual products or specific versions. You know exactly what it is that you are being certified as and it will be as valid tomorrow when a new version of whatever comes in, as it is today. It is not a version of a product. It is a specific *area* of IT *knowledge* that you are being certified at. Any wonder why they are so respected in the industry?

If Oracle ran their "certifications" like Cisco runs theirs, I'd have no objection whatsoever. We'd have a DBA certification, NOT linked to ANY version of Oracle. And a Designer one. And a Forms Developer one. And so on. Each covering specific requirements that are expected of ANY DBA. ANY designer. ANY developer.  

As is, the whole thing is a joke. And the Master's thing is just MOTS.

> Results may vary widely.There might be room for improvement in the
> OCP setup but IMHO "worthless" " of no value" is over said.

I do understand and accept your point.

>
> Best wishes and Peace in 2003

Amen!

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