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Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

From: Noons <nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam>
Date: 31 Dec 2002 16:36:46 GMT
Message-ID: <Xns92F6228EA6348mineminemine@210.49.20.254>


joel-garry_at_home.com (Joel Garry) wrote in news:91884734.0212301544.1ceaa778_at_posting.google.com and I quote:

>> >
>> >On the other hand an "Oracle Certified Master" MIGHT BE getting closer
>> >to what Daniel desires (e.g. like a state run board test for lawyers,
>> >doctors, and engineers).  The OCM requires you to:


No, it is not closer. The BIG, ENORMOUS difference is that one is run by a state board, independent of any maker. The other isn't. The old story of conflict of interest comes up.

>
> I implement features and solve problems on real machines all the time.
> I've been doing it for decades. Why should I pay Oracle to say I've
> done it? They should pay me to say I've done it!

This is actually a very good point, even though at first sight it might sound like sour grapes.

> for it myself if someone would guarantee me a year's contract out of
> it, but from what I've seen of the current job market there's no added
> value for those who are not bleeding-edge rah-rahs. And the marketing

Exactly. None whatsoever. The market is still as keyword and BS oriented as it ever was. This is just an added cost.

> sounds _just like_ the original OCP marketing.

Bingo. MOTS.

-- 
Cheers
Nuno Souto
nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam
Received on Tue Dec 31 2002 - 10:36:46 CST

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