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"Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> The answer is no.
>
> If a transaction generates redo (and every normal insert, delete or update
> always does, regardless of your setting for NOLOGGING), then that redo
will
> be written to the online logs, and online logs get archived, so your
> transactions are in the archived redo logs.
>
> As someone else has mentioned, you might find that 'create global
temporary
> table BLAH (col1 number, col2 char(5)) etc' fits the bill, as transactions
> in global temporary tables are never logged... largely because the data
> inserted into such a table is only visible to the session that put them
> there.
Hi Howard, Jim and all,
Suggestions that transactions to temporary tables are never logged is not quite correct and is a little deceptive. It's kinda right but not quite. In actual fact changes to temporary tables can produce a significant amount of redo.
Let me give a simple demo then I'll try to explain.
SQL> create global temporary table bowie_test on commit preserve rows as select * from dba_source;
Table created.
SQL> select * from v$log;
GROUP# THREAD# SEQUENCE# BYTES MEMBERS ARC STATUS
---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- --- ----------------FIRST_CHANGE# FIRST_TIM
1 1 64 1048576 1 NO INACTIVE 19490665 19/DEC/02 4 1 65 1048576 1 NO INACTIVE 19490834 19/DEC/02 5 1 66 1048576 1 NO CURRENT 19490837 19/DEC/02
SQL> update bowie_test
2 set text = 'BOWIE';
145115 rows updated.
SQL> select * from v$log;
GROUP# THREAD# SEQUENCE# BYTES MEMBERS ARC STATUS
---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- --- ----------------FIRST_CHANGE# FIRST_TIM
1 1 139 1048576 1 NO ACTIVE 19504906 19/DEC/02 4 1 140 1048576 1 NO CURRENT 19505046 19/DEC/02 5 1 138 1048576 1 NO INACTIVE 19504746 19/DEC/02
I am the only user on my little baby DB and yet changes to just a simple little temporary table has produced about 74M of redo (the small redo logs are there purely for effect ;)
The key point is this. Changes to temporary tables produces *undo* as I might decide to rollback the changes above. Although the changes to the temporary table itself are not logged, the changes to the undo segments *are* logged. This is because we may need to recover a specific undo datafile and need to determine what is what. Therefore changes to temporary tables can produce a significant amount of redo.
An important point that I thought needed clarifying.
Cheers
Richard Received on Thu Dec 19 2002 - 04:32:46 CST