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Re: 90GB table on Windows 2000

From: Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:46:18 -0000
Message-ID: <apmhhr$ola$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>

Sorry about leaving out the RELY all the way through - at least I remembered to include it at the end.

The 'bug' is presumably related to the point that RELY exists to help the optimizer understand relationships between data - and therefore get the estimate somewhere in the right ballpark.

Yes, I have done it, but the last time was on 8.1.6, on a Sun, loading 32 GB of data per day, and we had far more serious problems than just working out how to deal with dropping and exchanging partitions - most (if not all) of which have been fixed in 8.1.7.4

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John Summers wrote in message
<5d76b757.0210290915.13bac9eb_at_posting.google.com>...

>Leave it to the guru to inspire confidence. It's actually not that
bad
>for me. In this case, I can control the loads into the warehouse. So,
>disables is not a big deal... I can make sure nothing comes in during
>the exchange/export.
> The catch you didn't mention is that I found not only do you have to
>leave the constraint in NOVALIDATE mode, I've had to use RELY as
well.
>Otherwise, I found a peculiar "bug" where some queries cause the
>optimizer to drop the ball.
> This is in 8.1.7.0... and from what I get from Oracle, they have no
>idea and it's probably not fixed.
> Thanks... from what you've stated, I'll assume you HAVE NOT done
>this yourself on a large database. Not the answer I was looking for.
>john.
>
>"Jonathan Lewis" <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<aomb57$1tu$3$8300dec7_at_news.demon.co.uk>...
>> John,
>>
>> It's slightly worse than you think.
>>
>> Despite comments by Daniel, some data
>> warehouse systems do run without constraints
>> (or constraints which are DISABLE RELY)
>> in order to get the optimizer to know how the
>> data hangs together, without the overhead of
>> maintaining indexes. BUT they are data warehouse
>> which are only subject to batch loads, and the batch
>> code is supposed to prove that the constraints are
>> not needed.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Jonathan Lewis
>> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>>
Received on Tue Oct 29 2002 - 11:46:18 CST

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