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Re: Pentium or Risc processors for an Oracle Database?

From: Alex Gnaegi <alex.gnaegi_at_freesurf.ch>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:44:22 +0200
Message-ID: <3da82696@news.swissonline.ch>


Thank you John , Daniel and Howard for your answers.

John

I think also the TPC benchmark is realy interesting. The problem with TCP is the tested systems are rarely representative of the market. Much of them represent a race against the highest TPC-C score without any consideration about the price. They are for the normal buyers irrelevant. Especially with Oracle Database, it is very difficult to get configuration with 1 to 4 processors on NT or Unix OS, precluding any comparison between Risc and Pentium or AMD processors.

Concerning the industry bias, I also agree with you. A lot of decisions about hardware or software are made only to minimise the risks. I'm sure that the choices of platform will be completely different if the decision makers have to get the money of their own.

Do you think Oracle for 700 users can be considered?, with how many CPU and RAM? Best regards

Alex

"John Roberts" <jroberts_at_bogus.sprintmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: ddIp9.22857$lV3.2164610_at_newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Alex,
>
> To arm yourself with facts rather than biased conjecture, take a look at
the
> benchmark sites (www.tpc.org and ecperf.theserverside.com ).
>
> Besides the here and now, you also need to consider industry trends:
>
> (1) The future of the Alpha chip is in great doubt - not enough installed
> base means not enough funds for R&D giving rise to a widening performance
> gap.
> (2) The Intel 64 bit Itanium chip has been a dissapointment.
> (3) Intel's power base in workstations gives it the money to invest in
> server solutions.
> (4) Intel and AMD take turns leapfrogging each other in the MHz wars. We
> will have 3 and 4 GHz chips within the year.
> (5) Sun's Ultrasparc III cu currently tops out at 1.015 GHz. So even
though
> they have 64 bit architecture, the chips have less power than 32 bit Intel
> competitors.
> (6) Sun has been making moves in the Linux arena, causing much
consternation
> in the Solaris camp. Perhaps Sun Linux is Plan B if their CPU chips
> continue to lag Intel. They also announced belated plans to release
Solaris
> 9 for Intel - perhaps this is Plan C.
>
> Fortunately, Oracle is readily portable between platforms. For example,
at
> my company we often develop under Win 2K and then deploy under Solaris.
So
> even if you need to change your mind about platform, its usually a simple
> job to migrate.
>
> The other factor is industry bias. The saying in the 1970's was that
nobody
> ever got fired for recommending IBM. Today, the same can be said for
Oracle
> running on Solaris. If you recommend Oracle under Windows - Intel and the
> project goes sour, there will be plenty of people to question that
decision.
> Most of them on this NG.
>
> But Oracle under Windows runs just fine for thousands of users. The
> hardware is cheaper and you don't need an expensive Solaris SysAdmin.
>
> John
>
>
>
Received on Sat Oct 12 2002 - 08:44:22 CDT

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