Re: Oracle Right or Wrong

You're absolutely right. It's a learning opportunity. 3 months ago, I didn't know dit about Oracle. Thanks to 40 pounds of manuals and an equivalent weight of coffee beans, and this NG, I've learned enough to be dangerous to myself and to others.

Yeah I know you see the high and mighty stuff elsewhere, but believe me, it doesn't get more "Godly" anywhere else like it does in here! As far as discussions go, I rarely see anybody going against the flow around here.

I could say something like, "Gee, SQL Server has a pretty nifty Profiler built into it. Does Oracle have any equivalent..."

What I'd get back would be something like "Yeah, well that's because they feel so bad that they stuck you such a lousy piece of @#$ DBMS, they feel guilty..." This is followed by a barrage of MSSQL sucks, long live Larry!. It's like a Rush Limbaugh show, sometimes <g>.

-Mike.  

On 9 Oct 2002 14:26:19 -0700, stuartcharlton_at_hotmail.com (Stu Charlton) wrote:

>I've been lurking for a few months too, and I tend to notice a certain
>amount of ego/arrogance/agressive assertiveness, whatever you want to
>call it. I don't, however, see it in the light that you do.
>
>To suggest that people in this newsgroup should always be on their
>best behaviour is denying the context that this newsgroup exists in:
>newbies that refuse to read the documentation, experts that refuse to
>read the documentation, and newbies & experts that refuse to actually
>back up their opinions with repeatable results. It's can be
>frustrating. There are thousands of self proclaimed "Oracle experts"
>out there that spew a lot of drivel. People sometimes come to this
>newsgroup to verify whether this drivel is true. Thus ensues an
>argument as long-held beliefs are busted. Esxplosions of long-held
>beliefs are bound to be messy.
>
>Several of the people in this newsgroup are truly world-class Oracle
>experts and can disprove, repeatably with code, a lot of claims and
>myths out there about the Oracle DBMS. Some of these claims and
>myths stem from Oracle's own curricula, consultants, and
>documentation. And they've had to do it for *years*. That breeds
>just a wee bit o' cynicism, no?
>
>The pattern of ego you're experiencing tends to happen on almost all
>special interest group discussion areas -- there's a certain level of
>expectation in the room because of the amount of silliness that has
>come in the past. How many times do people ask the SAME question
>without checking the archives? Or the documentation (even the basic
>CONCEPTS manual)?
>
>This isn't a support area, it's a discussion area, and if people are
>peeved about something, there's probably a reason for it. I see it as
>an opportunity to learn.
>
>Cheers
>Stu
>
>bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net (Mike Dwyer) wrote in message news:<3da33803.172663517_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net>...
>
>> Is it just me? I can't believe that I'm alone in this observation.
>> If any of you share my opinion, by all means, chime in here. Some of
>> you guys sound like stiff college professors, scolding me for not
>> bringing my "books" to class or disagreeing that Oracle is not the
>> end-all of DBMS's. I read the postings. When people ask questions,
Received on Wed Oct 09 2002 - 17:16:23 CDT