Re: Oracle Right or Wrong

I'll think about it....

Seriously, Richard, you got to admit it's pretty thick around here. I mean, you what I'm talking about here, no? Be honest now...

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:09:25 +1000, "Richard Foote" <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com> wrote:

>Oh, alright.
>
>But can I at least keep my Larry Teddy with the sailor suit and the
>pull-down string at the back that makes him say "This Sydney to Hobart Race
>is a bit rough, think I'm going to throw-up !!".
>
>Can I please keep it ;)
>
>Richard
>"Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:3da43466.237272640_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> That's a good start. But you might want to replace those "Larry Boy"
>> Jammies while you're at it, eh?
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:17:49 +1000, "Richard Foote"
>> <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Mike,
>> >
>> >That's it !!
>> >
>> >Thanks to you, I'm going to take down the photo of "His Highness And
>> >Mightiest Larry The Big E" from my bedside table. I mean, it has always
>> >irritated my wife (as it somewhat hides the family photo at the back) and
>my
>> >obsession with Oracle and "The Big E" is just not healthy. Eating Oops
>for
>> >breakfast, as the shapes reminds me of the Oracle font, wearing Oracle
>> >shirts all time (didn't go down too well at the wedding), watching Oracle
>> >marketing videos and not giving kids the opportunity to watch Harry
>Potter,
>> >it's just not right.
>> >
>> >So thank you for your prod, hence forth, I'm a changed man.
>> >
>> >Just got to find the right sized photo of David Bowie to replace Larry ;)
>> >
>> >BTW, if I've ever come across as arrogant or closed minded, please
>forgive
>> >me. Trust me, you'll get to like me, although it can take a while ...
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >
>> >Richard
>> >"Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> >news:3da33803.172663517_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> >> Over the past several months, I've been learning the in's and out's of
>> >> Oracle programming so that I could port my application over from SQL
>> >> Server. I have received a great deal of help from people in the know,
>> >> and in large part, from these Oracle forums. I find the UseNet to be
>> >> invaluable for getting near-instantaneous feedback from people who are
>> >> out in the real world experiencing the same things that I am.
>> >> Although I've been developing in many languages over the past 20
>> >> years, I'm a newbie to Oracle. As such, I appreciate the constructive
>> >> advice that many of you have given me even though my basic questions
>> >> may have been answered many times over. So, I thank you for all the
>> >> free advice I've been "taking" from this forum.
>> >>
>> >> That said, I've been active in a number of forums in my years but I've
>> >> never seen the level of arrogance and closed mindedness that I see
>> >> from some members of this forum. This posting isn't directed towards
>> >> the people who put forward constructive advice and criticism. This is
>> >> directed towards the people who seem to worship the Oracle God and
>> >> spend as much time pontificating as they do giving advice (if any).
>> >>
>> >> Is it just me? I can't believe that I'm alone in this observation.
>> >> If any of you share my opinion, by all means, chime in here. Some of
>> >> you guys sound like stiff college professors, scolding me for not
>> >> bringing my "books" to class or disagreeing that Oracle is not the
>> >> end-all of DBMS's. I read the postings. When people ask questions,
>> >> they don't always get answers, they get lectures-- and condescending
>> >> critiques, at that. I run a business, I have questions, I need
>> >> answers. Those of you are nice enough to take the time out to help
>> >> me, I thank you. But those who want to lecture and pontificate should
>> >> save it. Hey, if I wanted a lecture, I'd go back to college! Some of
>> >> you guys really need to lighten up.
>> >>
>> >> As a user trying to understand a new product, I like to read the
>> >> members' opinions to find out what the strengths and weaknesses of
>> >> the product are in relation to others in its class. Unfortunately,
>> >> the discussions are rather one-sided in this forum. And from what
>> >> I've seen, people are probably afraid to use the "M" word in here for
>> >> fear they will be flamed and moofed to death (as I will certainly be).
>> >> Some of you guys sound like "Little Larry Ellisons" running around
>> >> with noses in the air phrasing every answer to every question with
>> >> "And that's another reason why Oracle is great and Microsoft sucks.".
>> >> A little objectivity please...
>> >>
>> >> In the interest of debate, can you honestly say that NOTHING that SQL
>> >> server has to offer is better than what Oracle puts out? Or that
>> >> there is NO feature that some other DBMS may have that is superior to
>> >> Oracle? Or that Oracle may have limitations that other products do
>> >> not? If your answer is a resounding "NO" then I think that some of
>> >> you need to open your minds a bit.
>> >>
>> >> To some of you I'm sure I'm sounding like a jerk here. But to others
>> >> in the group, I believe that you know what I'm talking about when it
>> >> comes to the "attitude" in here. In my 3 month long "Trial By Fire",
>> >> I've come to the conclusion that Oracle is, overall, the most powerful
>> >> DBMS out there. But there are areas where Oracle lags behind
>> >> Microsoft and there is room for improvement. I feel like a PC user in
>> >> a Mac group for saying this, but I'd like to see a little more
>> >> objectivity and discussion about the pros and cons in here, that's
>> >> all. God forbid, someone like me admits that in here, but hey, what
>> >> do I know, I'm just a newbie, right <g>?
>> >>
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Received on Wed Oct 09 2002 - 09:11:51 CDT