Re: Infamous JRE Installation Problem with 9i Again. :-(

I don't take it as a dig Howard, it's Human nature. I still think the evidence pointed to a problem with the installer even though it was the format of the CD which I was able to reproduce. There are just too many posts regarding this issue here in the group, on oracle's own web based forums and just do a google search on, "Oracle Universal Installer cannot be run".

In the end, what do the really want? I'll admit to having a bit of a bad taste in my mouth now regarding Oracle and I'll have to try to temper that while evaluating their software and making a recommendation to my client. From a prospective customer's point of view, it was a negative experience with the product.

"Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:Czwi9.36295$g9.103685_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> Without particularly wishing to rub salt in the wounds, I think this is
> indeed something that can shed important light for others' benefit: never,
> ever leap to conclusions. And when you stuff up big time, don't rush to
> blame "bugs" or Oracle's supposed incompetence.
>
> I think these two quotes should be permanently juxtaposed and printed on
> every newbie's wall:
>
> "I suppose I'll try downloading again, but right now I'm just about to
> forget
> the whole thing and assume that a lot less people out there run Oracle
than
> I previously thought, because with such a buggy installer nobody must be
> able to even install the darn thing let along run it. :-\" (Post received
> at 2.07AM)
>
> "Well, I figured it out. It was indeed the CDs. Turns out, that the
> download (and yes, it was a .zip file not an ISO as I had said previously)
> has characteristics such that it can only be properly burned to CD with
> certain settings. In NERO, I had to select Mode 2 rather than Mode 1 and
> ISO9660 standard isn't comatible either." (Post received at 12.29PM)
>
> (Incidentally, the resolution is in any case somewhat odd, because I've
> never had any problems downloading the ZIPs, unzipping them onto the hard
> drive, and burning them (using Nero) onto a plain old 'Data CD' as
proferred
> by the Nero burning wizard.)
>
> Not a dig particularly at you, Brad, by the way: there are far too many
> posters in general who make mistakes and then claim it's all the product's
> fault.
>
> Regards
> HJR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message
> news:sKvi9.97$Rp6.155765_at_news.uswest.net...
> > Well, I figured it out. It was indeed the CDs. Turns out, that the
> > download (and yes, it was a .zip file not an ISO as I had said
previously)
> > has characteristics such that it can only be properly burned to CD with
> > certain settings. In NERO, I had to select Mode 2 rather than Mode 1
and
> > ISO9660 standard isn't comatible either.
> >
> > I had just burned the uncompressed zip images to CD so I could easily
take
> > them to the test server and in so doing, had made changes to the format
or
> > filenames such that the installer couldn't run. Pretty crazy because
I've
> > copied tons of stuff to CD before, but only now have I ever encountered
> this
> > sort of situation. It was such that copying back from the CD to the
hard
> > drive didn't do anyting to fix the problem either.
> >
> > Anyway, I want to thank everyone for their comments. I don't think I
> would
> > have suspected the format that the CD had been burned with as a cause on
> my
> > own. I am certain that there are a lot of other people suffering from
> this
> > because of the messages I read with the same symptoms and hopefully this
> > will shed some light for them as well.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > ...Brad
> >
> > "Tom Swier" <tswier_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:8098db11.0209190955.11a0383_at_posting.google.com...
> > > "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message
> > news:<ic6i9.60$dd4.61267_at_news.uswest.net>...
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > Thanks very much for your reply. Here are the details: (which are
> very
> > much
> > > > the same that I have read all over the place):
> > > >
> > > > As soon as I plop the 9i install CD into the drive, it auto runs and
I
> > click
> > > > INSTALL. Within a couple seconds, I get a message:
> > > >
> > > > "The Java Runtime Environment was not found at
> > > > c:\docume~1\admini~1\locals~1\temp\orainstall\jre\bin\jrew.exe.
Hence,
> > the
> > > > Oracle Universal Installer cannot be run. Please visit
> > > > http://www.javasoft.com and install JRE version 1.1.7 or greater and
> try
> > > > again."
> > > >
> > > > I had this problem on an existing server so I did a BRAND NEW
> > installation
> > > > of Windows 2000 Server and then applied SP3. Still same problem. The
> > > > processor is a PII-366. What could be wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I've followed all the steps I have found so far:
> > > >
> > > > I've tried copying the install disks to the hard drive.
> > > > I've tried renaming the symcjit.dll files (all of them).
> > > > I've made sure that all the files are not read only (since they came
> off
> > of
> > > > the CD-R)
> > > > I've tried downloading various versions of the JRE (from 1.1.8 to
1.4)
> > > > I've read the installation .PDF included on the CD.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any suggestions. I wish I could just get the darn thing
to
> > > > INSTALL!! But if the installer won't run, what am I to do??
> > > >
> > > > ...Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Swier" <tswier_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8098db11.0209180320.127e7b86_at_posting.google.com...
> > > > > "Brad Melendy" <brad_at_techknow.biz> wrote in message
> > > > news:<OIzh9.650$SJ.220011_at_news.uswest.net>...
> > > > > > Ok, at the risk of being flamed, how the heck does one get
around
> > this
> > > > > > problem? I've spent about 4 hours doing google searches,
reading
> > > > messages
> > > > > > in the oracle forum at oracle.com and reading messages here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've got a P-II 366 with 256 mb ram and 10 gig HD (it's a test
> > system)
> > > > > > running Windows 2000 Advanced Server with SP 3. It is a brand
new
> > > > > > installation and I can't get Oracle 9i x86 just downloaded from
> > oracle
> > > > no
> > > > > > more than 2 weeks ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried copying the install disks to the hard drive.
> > > > > > I've tried renaming the symcjit.dll files (all of them).
> > > > > > I've made sure that all the files are not read only (since they
> came
> > off
> > > > of
> > > > > > the CD-R)
> > > > > > I've tried downloading various versions of the JRE (from 1.1.8
to
> > 1.4)
> > > > > > I've read the installation .PDF included on the CD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm about ready to go out and kill a chicken as a sacrifice! I
> have
> > a
> > > > > > Windows 2000 Pro workstation and it acts the same way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what else is there? I see this error message being
complained
> > about
> > > > all
> > > > > > over the place on google, oracle.com and here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ....Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We need a little more information about how this installation is
> > > > > failing. I have installed 8.1.6, 8.1.7, 9iR1 and 9iR2 on PIII
> machines
> > > > > without a hiccup (a pity, how can you learn how to fix it if it
> won't
> > > > > break). Give us some specific error messages or conditions that
you
> > > > > encountered during your installs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Swier
> > > > >
> > > > > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you
are
> a
> > > > > fool than to open it and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain
> > >
> > > I have yet to try an install with Win2K SP3. I have done all of my
> > > installs so far on SP2. I have not yet heard of any issues of this
> > > kind with SP3 so maybe you're breaking new ground here. If you have a
> > > fast internet connection (I'm assuming you do based on what you've
> > > said), I would try downloading the Oracle software again. Also, what
> > > CD burning software are you using and what settings are you using to
> > > burn the CDs? A common thread running through all of this is your
> > > statement about downloading the software, burning the CDs and then
> > > going from there, i.e., installing from the CD, copying the CD to the
> > > hard drive, etc. Just a thought.
> > >
> > > Tom Swier
> > >
> > > It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a
> > > fool than to open it and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Fri Sep 20 2002 - 11:50:30 CDT