Re: Oracle Certified Masters exam

Hi Pete,

Hey, wait a minute, I'm an Oracle shareholder (crikey. $10.76) !!

Folks out there in real world land, forget everything I've said and go out and buy yourself Oracle certification, it's sure to be a bargain no matter the cost.

In Australia, the cost of attending a 5 day advanced course is a touch over $4,000. Multiply that by 2 and that's $8,000 in training (assuming two, 5 day courses). Add a couple of grand for the practical exam and we're close to $10,000 Australian. With a few frequent flyer points and some friendly relatives in the UK, Spain and the US and a good overseas holiday could indeed be enjoyed by the family for this kind of money.

OCM had better be worth it ...

Cheers

Richard

"Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message news:ak1o4u01gh4_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <MZY89.11811$g9.38567_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>, "Richard says...
> >
> >Hi Pete,
> >
> >I still owe you (now let me see in my black book, ah yes) about 239 cheap
> >digs, 78 expensive digs and $20 bucks (which I'm willing to forget ;)
>
> I've not forgotten that $20!
>
> >
> >Don't you feel that being able to pass the practical exams should be
> >sufficient to obtain OCM. Why *must* you attend training on something
that
> >passing the practical exam would suggest you already know.
>
> Pass, as I said I have no idea what the reasoning here is, but as an
Oracle
> shareholder anything that increases Oracle profits must be right! :)
>
> Pete
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Richard
> >"Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
> >news:ak1jt40127s_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> >> In article <UqX89.11753$g9.37987_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>, "Richard
says...
> >> >
> >> >Hi Pete,
> >> >
> >> >Come on, don't keep us in suspense, did you get the 35% required to
pass
> >;)
> >>
> >> Wasn't told what the pass mark was, but yes I passed somehow. A cheap
dig
> >that
> >> gets me back for one of the cheap digs I had at you in the past. :)
> >> >
> >> >Actually this does all sound a bit more like it. Couple of issues I
have
> >> >though are:
> >> >
> >> >You *must* attend 2 Oracle advanced courses before being able to sit
the
> >> >test. This is a nonsense. If you can pass the practical exam, you pass
> >the
> >> >practical exam.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not sure what the reasoning here, so I can't really comment other than
the
> >> material in those advanced courses will certainly help you to pass the
> >exam.
> >>
> >> >The costs. I've no idea what they are but knowing Oracle, it won't be
> >> >pretty. Add two advanced courses and the costs alone are a big
turnoff.
> >>
> >> Likewise, no idea what the cost is. It was free for me!
> >>
> >> >
> >> >General acceptance and worth. Will having this certification mean I
can
> >get
> >> >more work. Will organisations demand such qualifications or will
> >experience,
> >> >reputation and a good resume work everytime. Unless there's a general
> >> >requirement for such qualifications from employers, then the return on
> >(the
> >> >significant) investment is just not there.
> >>
> >> I think it will mean just that when more people have attended it. It
> >sounds
> >> pretty much like what I've heard of one of the Cisco exams (CCNE?).
All
> >you
> >> need to know is that someone has that and they're a shoo-in to get a
job.
> >> That's why I was so pleased with the exam, even though I felt like you
> >know what
> >> afterwards. Jim and the guys that developed it have done an excellent
job
> >(FYI,
> >> Jim also wrote the 7.3 B&R Workshop, which is still to my mind the best
> >course
> >> I've ever had the pleasure to teach).
> >> >
> >> >It's definitely a step in the right direction, but unless the above
> >issues
> >> >are resolved (or someone pays for me as in the past) then I'd rather
> >spend
> >> >the money on a month holiday around the world with my family.
> >>
> >> I know Deb can run your house on a shoestring, and probably has to now
> >you're a
> >> consultant. ;) But if you can survive on a month holiday with the
family
> >on the
> >> costs of this, you must be able to live on love (and David Bowie
records)!
> >>
> >> Pete
> >> >
> >> >Cheers
> >> >
> >> >Richard
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:ak138l027dp_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> >> >> Sometime ago, I mentioned that I would be attending the pilot of the
> >> >Oracle
> >> >> Certified Masters practicum exam, and would provide you folks with
some
> >> >feedback
> >> >> on it. This was in relation to a discussion about the Oracle
Certified
> >> >> Professional program being too easy to pass without hands-on
knowledge
> >of
> >> >the
> >> >> database.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, rest assured you will NEVER get through the OCM exam without
> >handson
> >> >> experience. I've been using Oracle database technology for 16 odd
> >years
> >> >now,
> >> >> and I finished each day of the two day exam feeling like a wrung out
> >dish
> >> >rag.
> >> >> It's a very tough exam to get through, and as such certainly answers
> >every
> >> >piece
> >> >> of negative feedback I've seen on the OCP program. You can rest
> >assured
> >> >that
> >> >> anyone who gets through the OCM will really know their stuff with
the
> >> >Oracle
> >> >> database.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now if someone will kindly pass me a bottle of whiskey so I have an
> >excuse
> >> >to
> >> >> pass out ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Pete
> >> >>
> >> >> For full details of the requirements for the OCM, go to
> >> >>
> >http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i_ocm.html,
> >> >but
> >> >> here's the list of things that may be covered in the exam FYI:
> >> >>
> >> >> Database Configuration
> >> >>
> >> >> Determine and set sizing parameters for database segments.
> >> >> Create and manage temporary, permanent and undo tablespaces.
> >> >> Stripe data files across multiple physical devices and locations.
> >> >> Configure the database environment to support optimal data access
> >> >performance.
> >> >> Protect the database from loss of data from any failure scenario.
> >> >> Create and manage database configuration files.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oracle Network Configuration
> >> >>
> >> >> Create and manage multiple network configuration files.
> >> >> Configure the database instance to support shared server
connections.
> >> >> Setup network tracing.
> >> >> Configure the network environment to efficiently manage user
> >connections.
> >> >> Manage Oracle network processes.
> >> >> Configure the network environment to allow connections to multiple
> >> >databases.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oracle Enterprise Manager
> >> >>
> >> >> Install and configure Oracle Enterprise Manager.
> >> >> Install and configure the OEM Tuning Pack.
> >> >> Install and configure the OEM Diagnostics Pack.
> >> >> Use OEM to modify a database configuration.
> >> >> Configure OEM to manage database availability.
> >> >> Perform database administration operations using OEM.
> >> >>
> >> >> Database Availability
> >> >>
> >> >> Create a recovery catalog using Recovery Manager.
> >> >> Use Recovery Manager to perform database backups.
> >> >> Use Recovery Manager to perform a complete database restore and
> >recovery.
> >> >> Configure the TNSNAMES.ORA file to support remote connections to a
> >catalog
> >> >> database using TCP.
> >> >> Perform a complete recovery from any failure scenario.
> >> >>
> >> >> Data Management
> >> >>
> >> >> Create and manage tablespaces to support database access activities.
> >> >> Manage partitioning within a database environment.
> >> >> Configure auditing within the database.
> >> >> Provide users with access to data.
> >> >> Provide access to data using flashback.
> >> >>
> >> >> Database Management
> >> >>
> >> >> Implement fine-grained security.
> >> >> Generate table, index, column, and system statistics.
> >> >> Manage the SGA.
> >> >> Manage new users.
> >> >> Implement Replication.
> >> >>
> >> >> Performance Management
> >> >>
> >> >> Collect instance and database statistics using STATSPACK,
> >USTAT/UTLESTAT,
> >> >and
> >> >> OEM Packs.
> >> >> Analyze statistics and modify parameters to enhance performance.
> >> >> Configure Resource Manager and use it to manage queries.
> >> >> Create and manage objects to accommodate different data access
methods.
> >> >> Analyze and tune query performance.
> >> >> Use events to collect performance information.
> >> >>
> >> >> Standby Databases and Data Guard
> >> >>
> >> >> Create and utilize a standby database.
> >> >> Add data to the primary database in preparation for transfer to a
> >standby
> >> >> database.
> >> >> Setup the standby database to use the log writer process to transfer
> >the
> >> >log
> >> >> stream to the standby database.
> >> >> Configure the network environment to allow communication between the
> >> >standby
> >> >> database and the primary database.
> >> >> Open the standby database in a "Read-Only" state.
> >> >>
> >> >> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pete
> >> >>
> >> >> SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
> >>
> >> Pete
> >>
> >> SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
> >>
> >
> >
>
> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
>
> Pete
>
> SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
>
Received on Thu Aug 22 2002 - 02:06:01 CDT