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Re: venting my spleen

From: Sybrand Bakker <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:46:48 +0200
Message-ID: <ui7qsrcg73u4ce@corp.supernews.com>

"Tom Barnes" <barnest_at_san.rr.com> wrote in message news:ae6b6116.0207011334.1a006192_at_posting.google.com...
> Tom Hoffmann <tom.hoffmann_at_worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<pan.2002.06.30.19.11.18.805672.1851_at_worldnet.att.net>...
>
> > While I say that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, my experience as an SA (and
> > part-time DBA) over the past 12 years is that developers are notorious
> > for wanting to blame all their problems on either the OS or the DBMS ...
> > particularly when performance is involved ... when they did not engage
> > the expertise of either individuals when they were designing their
> > programs.
>
> So why don't you help them *while they are designing their programs* ?
>
> > I keep telling them that performance can not be added after the
> > fact ... it has to be designed in.
>
> So why don't you help them design for performance so it doesn't have
> to be added in?
>
> Help the developers, talk to them, even write a few lines of code
> yourself. I don't think your bitter attitude towards developers is
> very helpful, neither is the developers' attitude towards you. But all
> your problems can be fixed with better communications.

Mr. Hoffmann is without any doubt discussing developers who don't WANT the advice of a DBA, because they know EVERYTHING better (at least they think so).
'Better communications' isn't going to address their arrogant attitude. Believe me, I have met the species quite of lot of times. Most often those self-appointed gurus were completely incompetent, and keen on getting the highest salary and the most expensive lease-car.

Regards

--
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

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Received on Mon Jul 01 2002 - 16:46:48 CDT

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