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Re: Import bug

From: Chuck <chuckh_at_softhome.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:53:40 -0400
Message-ID: <afq4v6$geugk$1@ID-85580.news.dfncis.de>


Yes it's trivial and that is exactly what I am doing. Moving on.

"Thomas Kyte" <tkyte_at_oracle.com> wrote in message news:afisgb073r_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <afidu3$e3id5$1_at_ID-85580.news.dfncis.de>, "Chuck" says...
> >
> >
> >"Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> >news:3D1C8C6A.8E0DD5FC_at_exesolutions.com...
> >
> >>
> >> I am continuing to read your postings with absolute amazement.
> >>
> >> You seem to think that your desire to violate Oracle's security model
is a
> >bug.
> >>
> >
> >No I think that it's reasonable to expect an import to restore the
database
> >to them same condition as when the export was taken? Don't you?
> >
> >> Quotas on tablespaces exist for a reason. They exist to keep people
from
> >taking
> >> space that has not been allocated to them.
> >>
> >> If the space hasn't been allocated to you ... the reasonable thing to
do
> >would
> >> be to increase your allocation. If you can not then either you are
trying
> >to do
> >> something not approved by the DBA responsible for the system (my guess)
or
> >you
> >> believe that the security model should be compromised by people too
lazy
> >to go
> >> in with DBA privileges and enter a single line of SQL at the command
> >prompt.
> >>
> >> Daniel Morgan
> >>
> >
> >You missing the point.Under normal database operation I would agree. But
a
> >full database import is not normal operation. It's used to copy or
restore a
> >database. You would expect that if you do a full export of a database,
drop
> >all non-system users, and then import that export file, that you would
have
> >the same database you started with. In this case it does not. That is a
flaw
> >in the design of the import program. If a DBA is doing a full import it
> >should not take into account tablespace quotas.
> >
> >
>
>
> it would be a trivial way to get around quota's no? (yes, it would). But
then
> again, if I'm a DBA the solution is rather trivial -- alter the user,
correct
> the problem.
>
> DMP files are not a good or practical way to restore your database. That
be
> what backups are all about.
>
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Received on Mon Jul 01 2002 - 12:53:40 CDT

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