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Re: whats going on

From: David Lord <davelord_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:55:53 +0200
Message-ID: <afbviq$iab$1@nntp-m01.news.aol.com>


This is a little harsh (although you do have a point). Less able people using this group and asking questions, even if they are hideously stupid, and being answered by others more able, is the whole point of the list.

Replies will inevitably reflect the dumbness of the question asked and what can be seen of the persons situation. Taking your example question below (WinZip and RAC). If this is the entire message then few useful answers are going to appear (but I guess someone may help with WinZip), but put it in the context of "I'm new to Oracle and my boss asked me to install Oracle and RAC this afternoon", changes the whole emphasis of the situation, and appropriate advise for his boss can be given.

Yes hopeless gibbons as questions that areanswered in a book. 99% of questions here are going to have answers in a book somewhere. My manual set for Oracle is 4 feet wide and I have twice as many books, isn't it better that someone in a bind asks his question here and looks in the manuals while waiting for an answer?

Also you've overlooked the real value of help groups like this, people learn not just by asking question, but also by reading question and replies and by writing those replies themselves. It is all about knowledge transfer. Yes I understand the RTFM, human nature and lazy git attitudes and that oracle is too complex to learn in your lunch hour, but that's not the issue here is it. If we all assume that people who ask questions on this list are hopeless scumbags who blagged their way into a consultant DBA positions and then made paper aeroplanes and Napoleonic hats out of the manual set, then this would be a rather worthless place.

"shrinad_at_ora-india.com" <daekw_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:afam95$fvs$00$2_at_news.t-online.com...
> why nobody can read documentation ??
>
> most of the questions in this newsgroup are ridiculous !!
>
> is the level of the questions in this group comparable with the knowledge
in
> the industry ?
>
> IT professional saying learning is boring we want just click a round
>
> can somebody without technical background, without studying,
> without sweat and pain achieve something usefull with oracle ( in 3 days
at
> the best ) ?
>
> question in this group:
> ( help I cannot operate winzip, for unzipping oracle, I just want to build
a
> litte RAC system)
>
>
> no he cannot and this is fine. but me fear is will this fall back to the
> product Oracle ??
>
> I have heard a lot of "professionals" saying, oracle is to hard to work
for
> me.
> I do not like learning, I will tell my boss go for sqlserver, because it
is
> "better"
> for me.
>
> Most of the "professionals" want to click a little. Limits of the product
> are not
> a concern of these people, because this will net be their personal fault.
>
> They can tell their boss, this doesnt work its not my fault. A product
which
> is
> complicated and unlimited like Oracle they do not like, because it would
be
> their fault .
>
> Also companies like to split their systems in a lot of small databases
> all working with incompatible applications, and all operated by clueless
> people.
>
> This is not good for Oracle, because this is the microsoft way.
>
> Will this change in the future because billions of dollars were spend with
> nightmare systems, companies IT infrastructure is a utter patchwork today.
>
> so what will be the future for Oracle in this environment ???
>
>
>
>
Received on Wed Jun 26 2002 - 03:55:53 CDT

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