Gosh Nuno, tell us what you really feel...:)
Mike
Nuno Souto <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message news:<3d049af4$0$28005$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...
> In article <20020610075330.05060.00000604_at_mb-cq.aol.com>, you said (and I
> quote):
> > #1 What is with all the SUN bashing? They make a damn fine product. Their
> > servers are like rocks. Heck, even their workstations are rock solid.
>
> You gotta be joking, no? Rock solid? Darn, you must explain that to the
> Sun techos who couldn't get the CPU's going in our 10000 last year. Took
> them 8 months to stabilize the darn thing! 8 MONTHS!!!!
>
> As for "all" the Sun bashing, so far it's me. Relax, it's a single
> voice. Pity is I have yet to be found wrong when I make this sort of
> warnings. Been doing it for 15 years and have yet to be wrong once...
> I could even "dare" to tell you Sun won't last long as a server company,
> but that would be stealing the thunder, no?
>
> >
> > #2 If Java and J2EE is so dead, then why does Microsoft have its own attempt
> > at the same called .NET?
>
>
> Because like so many others, they figured out J2EE is a dead end
> technology that plays into IBM's territory. M$ may be a lot of things
> but they are, most definitely, NOT stupid. And I have yet to see Bill
> Gates take a step that involves shooting his foot. Unlike Larry, who
> must be walking on stumps nowadays...
>
> >
> > #3 Java is alive and well on the server side. If you guys' prediction of Java
> > being dead is true, then Oracle might just as well be dead. Oracle put Java
> > EVERYWHERE in their product.
> >
>
> Correction. It used to be so at the high of the Java craze. Nowadays,
> Oracle doesn't even encourage people anymore to run Java inside the
> RDBMS. It's not worth it.
>
> Java has the presence it has today because it was supported by database
> companies such as Oracle. To ward off the "evil" M$. And it has been
> successful because of this support.
>
> Take it away and it has no one to help it. And yet, what do all these
> J2EE idiots go and do? Bash away at anything that reads database. About
> time they were shown the door and this J2EE sickness stopped. The
> architecture of this thing is demented to say the least. It reminds me
> of the bad old days of CICS and transaction managers. Totally hopeless
> for general computing. Very nice for "shopping carts" and other deranged
> ideas. Useless for anything else.
>
> Java has one strength and one strength only: it is portable. J2EE is an
> abortion. And Java's performance is sickening, to put it mildly.
Received on Mon Jun 10 2002 - 15:47:38 CDT
