Re: Database recovery from user error

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 20:30:47 -0700
Message-ID: <3D041D67.399C81BD@exesolutions.com>

Sybrand Bakker wrote:

> "Pete Sharman" <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
> news:adt91c01877_at_drn.newsguy.com...
> > In article <adrgod$oho$1_at_lust.ihug.co.nz>, "Howard says...
> > >
> > >
> > >"Sean M" <smckeownNO_at_BACKSIESearthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:3D013DEB.48B67291_at_BACKSIESearthlink.net...
> > >> "Howard J. Rogers" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > But we don't disagree. You have a recovery scenario which has been
> > >diagnosed
> > >> > to within an inch of its life, and is utterly predictable as a
> > >consequence.
> > >> > Same recovery scenario every night... Naturally that can be
> automated.
> > >Our
> > >> > original poster has dropped a table. Unless he plans on dropping the
> > >same
> > >> > table at the same time every day for the next year, the benefits of
> > >scrpting
> > >> > and automation in his scenario escape me!! ;-)
> > >>
> > >> Agreed - didn't mean to imply otherwise. Just shifting the topic
> > >> slightly for the sake of keeping this group lively on a slow Friday
> > >> afternoon.
> > >>
> > >
> > >It's an even slower Saturday morning here! With rain, to boot. Oh, and
> the
> > >'flu to keep me company. And an 8i New Features to ready (steady?) myself
> > >for next week.
> > >
> > >Honestly -how can anything in 8i still be called a "new feature"?? I ask
> > >you!
> >
> > Dead easy - just ask Sybrand how many pre-8i databases his customers are
> still
> > running! For them, there are an enormous number of "new features" . ;)
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >HJR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Sean
> > >
> > >
> >
> > HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements;
> >

>

> Oh well, you could ask me how many unsupported 8i databases I have running,
> crashing with ora-600 errors.
> This particular customer is running 8.1.5 because the third-party app
> doesn't support 8.1.7. And of course it is a 7 x 24 app, and the lifeblood
> of that customer.
> I am tempted to provide company names here, especially as the worldwide
> consultancy firm that has sold the app to the customer and is maintaining
> the app, consistently plays the 'cover your ass' game if anything in the
> application goes wrong, and is blaming us. As Anjo Kolk says in a recent
> interview in a Dutch Oracle magazine: 'It's always the DBA's fault!'
> Developers never make any mistake.

>

> And : No, making overtime because of this situation every day is NOT funny

>

> Regards

>

> --
> Sybrand Bakker
> Senior Oracle DBA

>
> to reply remove '-verwijderdit' from my e-mail address

I've got a question for you and all of the others out there that say they have not upgraded due to a third-party app. I just ignore the advice. Get the latest stable version. And set compatible = whatever nonsense they will support. And I've never had a problem.

What's the risk, if any?

Daniel Morgan Received on Sun Jun 09 2002 - 22:30:47 CDT