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Re: Initial segment badly initialized

From: Frederic Payant <fpayant_at_club-internet.fr>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:01:11 +0200
Message-ID: <rhn7fugtrfu2rsjpratfja6oagr2b44r7f@4ax.com>


Hi Sybrand,
Many thanks for your answer;
I'd need some precisions about your answer : You said :
>If these objects are in a dictionary managed tablespace and they are
>frequently extended, there might be an issue though, however during insert
>and update only

My objects _are_ in a directionary managed tablepace and my database is for OLTP purpoises, so, do you have some precisions about this issue ?

>Daily partition drops sound quite awful to me.
Why ?
I thought it was rather a clever idea ( it's not my idea I precise ;-) ) to have partitions managed on a timestamp and tables purged on that timestamp.
I would be pleased to know why you don't like this method

"Sybrand Bakker" <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> :

>
>"Frederic Payant" <fpayant_at_club-internet.fr> wrote in message
>news:vp6teucorhvtuak04ca3uv1v61ddflk4jb_at_4ax.com...
>> Hi
>> My database was designed for all tables using default storage clause
>> of tablespace.
>> But after all the DB installed I've discovered that the values of
>> INITIAL and NEXT was false for some of my tablespaces.
>> In general, my segments are created at the tenth of what they should
>> be ( ie 20M instead of 200M).
>> My questions are :
>>
>> 1) Is that really a problem, I mean : will my Database be slower
>> because of fragmentation (I computed the default size so that I
>> planned to have between 50 and 500 segments for a table or a
>> partition; with that mistake I'll have between 500 and 5000 segment
>> per table/partition) ?
>for selects: zero impact. On most O/Ses Oracle will read at max 64k or 1M in
>one I/O anyway.
>If these objects are in a dictionary managed tablespace and they are
>frequently extended, there might be an issue though, however during insert
>and update only
>

...
>> I've a lot of partitions which are drop and recreate regularly (every
>> day I drop an old partition per table and I recreate another). Will my
>> partitions be created with tablespace new values or old values ?
>>
>The default storage clause of the tablespace will be used at create time, in
>absence of a storage clause in the create <object> statement.
>Daily partition drops sound quite awful to me.
>

...

>> My server is SUN Solaris 8
>> Oracle 8.1.7
>> Databases (they are 2) are 350 GB each
>>

Regards
Frederic PAYANT - junior DBA ;-) Received on Wed May 29 2002 - 15:01:11 CDT

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