Re: Newbie's Oracle 9i impression: it sucks

Nuno Souto wrote:

> sqljoe_at_aol.com (SQLJoe) wrote in message news:<20020516110809.21498.00000052_at_mb-mv.aol.com>...
> > I am a MS SQL DBA of five years. Recently, I have been trying to learn Oracle
> > 9i on Windows2000. Here is my impression.
>
> we don't really care, but...
>
> >
> > 1)Oracle is SLOW on Windows2000, FAR slower than MS SQL 2000
> >
>
> really? EXCELLENT. Stay with sql2K, then.
>
> > 2)Oracle uses Java interface which, although cross platform, is slow and brings
> > out the DOS prompt (which remind of legacy applications) everytime I try to
> > open up a GUI.
>
> which pills have you been taking of late?
>
> >
> > 3)Believe ir not, Oracle is unstable and unreliable on Windows2000. I had
> > Oracle GUI crash on me TWICE already.
> >
>
> see reply to 2) above.
>
> > 4)Oracle security is overdone. It has multiple layers of security on the
> > network level to the application level. Initially, I had a hard time enterting
> > any database, and it took me while to setup the security features.
>
> the hard time you had has nothing to do with Orascle security and all
> to do with you been sniffing the wrong substance.
>
> >
> > 4)Setting up a Oracle Client is a nightmare. I need to setup a listener, port,
> > and separate account\pw for the client. Too much work.
>
> see reply to 2) above.
>
> >
> > 5)The official Oracle books from the Osbourne press absolutely SUCKS. I have
> > read 3 books on Oracle 9i from the Osbourne press and all of them were next to
> > useless. Furthermore, there are very few non-Osbourne books on Oracle 9i that I
> > can currently buy. This is in stark contract to MS SQL 2000 which has PLENTY of
> > GREAT books and documentation (except the ones from OSBOURNE).
>
> see reply to 1) above.
>
> >
> > 6)Oracle is too complicated. I am willing to bet most Oracle DBA\Developers
> > never use at least 20% of Oracle's features in their entire career. It seems
> > Oracle has a GUI for every little feature it provides, which makes it seem
> > disorganized and a nightmare to manage. I think it has around 20 GUIs!!!!. For
> > a database, that is ridiculous.
>
> see reply to 2) above.
>
> >
> > 7)PL/SQL is overrated. So far, I have seen nothing that PL/SQL can do which
> > T-SQL (with temporary tables and cursors) cannot do. Why would anyone want to
> > learn a SQL language that is, again, needlessly complicated?
>
> what's yuor point?
>
> > I am seriously considering dumping Oracle and learning DB2 instead. What do you
> > think?
>
> Yes please! Last thing we need now in the Oracle user community is
> another dingbat from lah-lah-land giving the product a bad name.

I'll put up $20 USD that says this troll has never even seen Oracle software. He has made enough factual mistakes that it seems pretty obvious he is just running off at the keyboard. Heck ... I'll bet he isn't even old enough to date girls.

Daniel Morgan Received on Thu May 16 2002 - 18:26:24 CDT