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Re: How Is The Job Market for Oracle DBA's?

From: Bass Chorng <bchorng_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 8 Apr 2002 15:12:10 -0700
Message-ID: <bd9a9a76.0204081412.c068a20@posting.google.com>


tincanman9_at_yahoo.com (John W.) wrote in message news:<3cb075d7.3963078_at_netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
>
> The location of course was India. Try this for rates and it will make
> your hair stand up. The Indian consulting company gets $15/hour for
> each body, the person (programmer, etc...) gets.....get ready (it
> shocked me) $3/HOUR! How are people here ever going to compete with
> that? IT in this country is doomed.
>

  I have never heard IT outsourcing to India. I know HW and SW engineering   doing so, but not IT. I hope your example is an isolated case. The simple   reason is IT usually stays wherever the data center is located. I doubt   how well people can administrate the infrastructure remotely using   unreliable phone lines there. The other difficulty is time zone difference.   India is exactly 12.5 hours different than California. It is   difficult, but not impossible, for them to staff accordingly.

  As to compition here with H1 labors, I am not sure they are *cheap*.   Most big companies pay them with the same rate. It is not worth the   risk for these companies to be entitled with labor discrimination.

  In fact I know quite a few H1 DBAs who have been laid off for a year   or so and still could not find a job. The reason is when there is   ample labor in the market, no one wants to hire someone with a hiatus   of H1 status. They don't want to get into the legal process and   they don't want to pay for the legal fees to apply green card for   those people which could cost up to $5K.

  These H1 DBAs got popular in the late 90's because of shortage of   such skill in the market. During that time, I did not see any   problem for U.S. citizens to get a decent job as there were more   demand than supply. Now during recession, I see more U.S. citizens   finding jobs than H1 holders because of above reasons.

  The only thing that disturbs me a little bit is there are some Indian   operated conculting companies out there *only* hiring Indians. That is   obviously illegal. Received on Mon Apr 08 2002 - 17:12:10 CDT

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