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Re: partiioning option not worth it?

From: Keith Boulton <kboulton_at_ntlworld.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:14:49 -0000
Message-ID: <tAcd8.4501$H43.510894@news11-gui.server.ntli.net>


A normal rule of thumb is to double your pre-tax salary.

The number and pay of execs seems to depend on the amount of money spent not manpower, so it's not relevant.

As I said, in this case, it will take 1 day to do - and the non-coding costs are the same either way.

damorgan <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote in message news:3C7534CA.4E5A3F95_at_ci.seattle.wa.us...
> It is not about wasting money. It is rather that when you figure the
"real" cost
> per hour to have a developer take something from concept through testing
and
> deployment you can run through £44,000 awfully fast.
>
> If you are just looking at that amount of money as how many hours of your
> take-home pay you are deceiving yourself. The company figures into the
cost of
> what you do everything from the Company Christmas party to the person
vacuuming
> the carpets at night to all of the layers of executives over you, all of
the
> meetings needed to make the decision, the allocation to legal and
administrative
> expenses, executive perqs, etc. And then add to that the cost of
maintaining an
> in-house solution, documentation, training, etc.
>
> When looked at that way, £44,000, is almost petty cash.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
>
>
> Keith Boulton wrote:
>
> > It is sad but true that many companies waste millions, but I don't see
why I
> > should contribute to the wastage.
> >
> > The odd thing I find is that people seem almost keen to waste money as
there
> > was some sort of status associated with buying the expensive version of
> > things.
> >
> > I've even worked at places where I've asked why they've got EE and they
> > replied "because the salesman said it was necessary for big or complex
> > databases".
> >
> > damorgan <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote in message
> > news:3C7437AC.F52C21C4_at_ci.seattle.wa.us...
> > > From my experience ... those companies big enough to have a need for
> > > partitioning ... spend more money than £44,000 just covering the cost
of
> > liquor
> > > at the company Christmas party. In short ... is is so insignificant as
to
> > be
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > Add up the cost of the server, the cost of the O/S. the cost of the
> > maintenance
> > > agreement, the cost of the sysadmins, the cost of the DBA, the cost of
the
> > > developers, electricity, client computers, desks, security, etc.
£44,000
> > is
> > > almost invisible and almost certainly inconsequential.
> > >
> > > Daniel Morgan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Boulton wrote:
> > >
> > > > I (like another poster) have been suckered into using the
partitioning
> > > > option when we don't have a licence for it. I was told that we 'a
> > licence
> > > > for everything', but this was from someone who, like me, thought
that
> > > > enterprise edition included it.
> > > >
> > > > The partitioning option costs £7000 per processor and I have 2 on
the
> > > > machine I'm using. For my needs, I can develop my own equivalent
> > > > functionality in about 1 day.
> > > >
> > > > The partitioning option also requires the enterprise edition which
is
> > £28000
> > > > per processor instead of £12000.
> > > >
> > > > For a 2 processor machine, using partitioning will cost £44,000. I
> > believe
> > > > that in > 95% of cases it is straightforward to code the equivalent
> > > > functionality, certainly in less than 20 man weeks.
> > > >
> > > > Why the f. does anyone buy it?
> > > >
> > > > I also notice the clause about reinstatement fee on support
contracts
> > now.
> > > > No wonder people are looking to open source software when
piss-taking
> > like
> > > > that is going on.
> > >
>
Received on Thu Feb 21 2002 - 14:14:49 CST

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