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Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

From: Howard J. Rogers <dba_at_hjrdba.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 06:08:12 +1100
Message-ID: <3c5edc21$0$18471$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>


But Daniel: in order to pass, you have to know where a 'create database' script ends and an 'add tablespace' one starts. It also helps to know that you can't create a database without having a system rollback segment. Or have you stopped teaching those particular things to your students?

HJR "damorgan" <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote in message news:3C5ECD79.ED48B3AC_at_ci.seattle.wa.us...
> Speaking for myself I have never taken the test, have no interest in
taking the
> test, but use the OCP exam books as a guide when constructing curriculum
for my
> students so I suspect that if I can teach it ... I could probably pass it.
>
> My reasons for not taking it are as follows:
> 1. It costs money
> 2. It grants no benefit commensurate with the cost
>
> I think our industry needs some form of real certification that has
meaning: This
> isn't it.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
>
>
>
> javadude wrote:
>
> > Justin John wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting opion I read from
> > > http://www.dbasupport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=20359
> > > Maybe there are certain degrees of truth in it.
> > >
> > > A friend of mine said to me most the sr. dbas are not certified, they
hates
> > > people certified and suggest I don't put certification on my cv.
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >
> > When I hire programmers and/or DBAs I look first at relevant
> > experience. I don't give much consideration to Certifications other
> > than it tells me that DBA has at least been exposed to material and
> > was able to recall it during a test. Doesn't necessarily mean they
> > retained the knowledge or can apply it in a real world situtation.
> > Another problem is the certifications are 'version dependent'. So,
> > unless you keep up it does not mean anything. Plus vendors
> > have a lot of insentive to come up with new versions as quick as
> > they can both to increase revenue and to fix serious bugs because
> > they rushed the last version. Oracle is no different in this sense.
> > In other words, the cerifications became obsolete about as quick as
> > you get them. But some businesses require them and for me that
> > is about the only reason to get them. I can and do learn the material
> > be reading and doing.
> >
> > Sure, there are probably Sr. DBAs who are afraid to take the test
> > just as there are certified DBAs who be afraid to be drilled about
> > their certification knowledge. Many certified DBAs were no more or
> > less knowledgable than other non-certified DBAs. Real world experience
> > makes the difference.
> >
> > A lot of times its knowing that a particular technique exists and
> > where to find the information when you need it. You don't have to
> > remember verbatim the implemention.
> >
> > Just my opinion
>
Received on Mon Feb 04 2002 - 13:08:12 CST

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