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Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

From: Tom Dyess <tdyess_at_dyessindustries.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 17:42:04 GMT
Message-ID: <MrA68.184422$_w.28792316@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>


Yes, there are excellent DBAs who are OCP certified, no doubt. I little psychological explanation just occurred to me. Perhaps when some entry / mid level people get their OCP, they don't feel like they have to learn any more because the OCP exam depicts that have already proven to the industry that they know Oracle databases. That's the intended purpose of the OCP in the first place, isn't it, to prove that you know Oracle? So with this misplaced hubris, they don't need to learn as fast as someone who doesn't have an OCP who needs to justify that they know Oracle without the paper and thus will learn much more detail and much harder. Of course, I'm a geek playing pop-psychologist, so I don't have malpractice insurance. ... Don't sue me ;)

Tom
www.oraclepower.com

"Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message news:3c5a900d.12151126_at_news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
> Keith Boulton doodled thusly:
>
> >of your references, but my question was more to do with how you could
define
> >a test to evaluate the skill/talent/knowledge of someone. I tend towards
the
> >heres the software, hardware and manuals and here are <n> test scenarios
to
> >work through e.g. user reports bad response time in ..., or disks
containing
> >control files have been destroyed....
> >
> >It seems to me that such a test would take days to run and require a
large
> >number of scenarios if simple luck wasn't to play a big part.
> >
>
> Hmmm, not sure if it would take days. I'd concentrate on the
> "scenarios" side. That usually weeds out straight away the "rote"
> OCP. They usually haven't got the foggiest about an out of the
> ordinary situation.
>
> Just to give an example. A few years ago I had to interview a number
> of DBAs for a client. OCP had started already and I got quite a few
> freshly "certified" candidates. As well as non-certified ones.
>
> The vast majority of OCPs couldn't simply answer any question that
> didn't involve using OEM. Seriously. One even had the gall to tell
> me that "any DBA nowadays not using OEM has to be an amateur". This
> was 5 years ago. We all know what OEM was like, back then...
>
> To cut it short: the job went to the fella that could explain to me
> how to approach in an number of ways a lost disk scenario.
> BTW, this fella had 4 years experience as well as being an OCP. He
> also DID know what the heck he was talking about, one of the best I've
> ever seen.
>
>
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam
>
Received on Fri Feb 01 2002 - 11:42:04 CST

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