Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

Except that you weren't responding to the "initial point" when you said "that's totally untrue," and neither was I. Re-read your posts as quoted below (if you can make it out after be word-wrapped to death) and you both are arguing pretty much the same things at this point.

In article <4Ff68.173365$_w.27275641_at_typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>, "Tom Dyess" <tdyess_at_dyessindustries.com> wrote:
>No, the initial point was that after your first year of DBA work, all other
>years are the same. I didn't think that was true in most cases (of course,
>lazy-asses won't learn much their first year and continue not to learn much
>the years after that if they inface are still employed)
>
>Tom
>www.oraclepower.com
>
>"Jeff" <jeff_at_work.com> wrote in message
>news:a3bl20$rde$2_at_cronkite.cc.uga.edu...
>> Guh! !@#$% newsreader!!! Lopped off my first sentence!
>>
>> That's not "totally untrue" by your own statement yet. You seem to be...
>>
>> In article <a3bk4s$rde$1_at_cronkite.cc.uga.edu>, jeff_at_work.com (Jeff) wrote:
>> >arguing that the QUALITY and depth of experience is far more important
>than
>> >the mere number of years, which is, I think, precisely what Keith was
>saying.
>> >
>> >I certainly agree that OCP certification is not enough to judge the
>potential
>> >of an applicant, but if all you're comparing is numbers of years of
>experience
>> >vs. an OCP certification (vs. a college degree, in fact) without looking
>any
>> >deeper than that, I believe you're just as apt to hire a dud either way
>you
>> >go.
>> >
>> >
>> >In article <AxX58.167861$_w.25778169_at_typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>, "Tom
>Dyess"
>> ><tdyess_at_dyessindustries.com> wrote:
>> >>That's totally untrue. It depends on what you do with your time. If you
>sit
>> >>there and occupy space, ofcourse not, but if you are put in a position
>where
>> >>you're the only one to manage the DB, or tune the code, or whatever, and
>all
>> >>eyes are on you, you bet you will learn and learn fast. It's called
>baptism
>> >>by fire, and no certification will improve your skills better than that.
>> >>
>> >>Tom
>> >>www.oraclepower.com
>> >>
>> >>"Keith Boulton" <kboulton_at_ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:3oX58.2040$zB.589982_at_news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
>> >>>
>> >>> Nuno Souto <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
>> >>> news:3c57bbef.7062649_at_news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
>> >>>
>> >>> > And you don't get "understanding, motivation and talent" by
>> >>> > "certificate training". Certainly not when the only thing said
>> >>> > certification teaches is the location of the buttons. Instead of
>the
>> >>> > principles behind their operation!
>> >>>
>> >>> I couldn't agree more.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, you also do not get "understanding, motivation and talent"
>simply
>> >>> by "serving time" which is what judging by "years of experience" comes
>> >>down
>> >>> to.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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Received on Thu Jan 31 2002 - 13:57:33 CST