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Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

From: Tom Dyess <tdyess_at_dyessindustries.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:02:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4Ff68.173365$_w.27275641@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>


No, the initial point was that after your first year of DBA work, all other years are the same. I didn't think that was true in most cases (of course, lazy-asses won't learn much their first year and continue not to learn much the years after that if they inface are still employed)

Tom
www.oraclepower.com

"Jeff" <jeff_at_work.com> wrote in message
news:a3bl20$rde$2_at_cronkite.cc.uga.edu...
> Guh! !@#$% newsreader!!! Lopped off my first sentence!
>
> That's not "totally untrue" by your own statement yet. You seem to be...
>
> In article <a3bk4s$rde$1_at_cronkite.cc.uga.edu>, jeff_at_work.com (Jeff) wrote:
> >arguing that the QUALITY and depth of experience is far more important
than
> >the mere number of years, which is, I think, precisely what Keith was
saying.
> >
> >I certainly agree that OCP certification is not enough to judge the
potential
> >of an applicant, but if all you're comparing is numbers of years of
experience
> >vs. an OCP certification (vs. a college degree, in fact) without looking
any
> >deeper than that, I believe you're just as apt to hire a dud either way
you
> >go.
> >
> >
> >In article <AxX58.167861$_w.25778169_at_typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>, "Tom
Dyess"
> ><tdyess_at_dyessindustries.com> wrote:
> >>That's totally untrue. It depends on what you do with your time. If you
sit
> >>there and occupy space, ofcourse not, but if you are put in a position
where
> >>you're the only one to manage the DB, or tune the code, or whatever, and
all
> >>eyes are on you, you bet you will learn and learn fast. It's called
baptism
> >>by fire, and no certification will improve your skills better than that.
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>www.oraclepower.com
> >>
> >>"Keith Boulton" <kboulton_at_ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>news:3oX58.2040$zB.589982_at_news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >>>
> >>> Nuno Souto <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> >>> news:3c57bbef.7062649_at_news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
> >>>
> >>> > And you don't get "understanding, motivation and talent" by
> >>> > "certificate training". Certainly not when the only thing said
> >>> > certification teaches is the location of the buttons. Instead of
the
> >>> > principles behind their operation!
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't agree more.
> >>>
> >>> However, you also do not get "understanding, motivation and talent"
simply
> >>> by "serving time" which is what judging by "years of experience" comes
> >>down
> >>> to.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
Received on Thu Jan 31 2002 - 12:02:40 CST

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